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Anti-gravity and the search for Dr. Ning-Li

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posted on Nov, 19 2011 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by Angelic Resurrection
 


Well....we may not have found the actual connection between gravity and EM. But it is widely thought that there is some connection, even if only ancillary.


Well, if you mean Time to be the ancillary entity, then yes.



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 01:57 AM
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The potential of Dr. Li's is obvious to me. I believe that she is absolutely correct. I have often thought of the potential of this discovery.

Here are a few observations that I came up with. If the magnetic aligning field was parabolic not flat the possibility of generating 1000+g accelerations at a point would be achevable. That could shear any weapon (jet, missile, etc...) instantaneously. Military applications are obvious.

Since the Bernoulli equations of thermodynamics are developed using calculus, (continuous graph for integration and differentiation) the presence of gravitational sheR would force the boundary of the thermodynamic system to encompass the entire system (center of gravity/earth)... In the presence of one of these field generators it would be possible to generate infinite energy from the rotation of the earth. That could destabilize the world oil based economy.

The potential to travel to the stars could be possible with this technology based on the original articles claims, but the really cool stuff is the bending of light with it. Theoretically bending space time could be possible?

Now if you were our government wouldn't you put her in a building with no windows too?

Obviously that is what is happening...

P-



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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Very salient points. And, as I have mentioned prior, things like the ability to make the atmosphere immediately above an area more "heavy" by impacting gravity in a localized region...you could flatten entire cities. Among other things.

And it isn't like in space you have to have a lot of energy devoted to the supercooling of the conductor. Space, in general, will achieve those temperatures with zero energy input on our part.



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by Phoinix4
Since the Bernoulli equations of thermodynamics are developed using calculus, (continuous graph for integration and differentiation) the presence of gravitational sheR would force the boundary of the thermodynamic system to encompass the entire system (center of gravity/earth)...


You really don't have any idea about all these words you keep throwing together. This may appeal to people who in turn lack education, but come on already... Bernoulli equations of thermodynamics? Duh.

The "entire system (center of gravity)"? What does calculus have to do with graphs in the first place, and why do all functions need to be continuous in calculus? Hint: they don't.



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
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Very salient points.


BFFT, which points exactly are salient? Can you address these in more detail and somewhat more technically?



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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To help allay your obvious offense, and I thought this was obvious from the beginning of you and I knowing each other here, I am not a physicist. So if you want technical terms and thoughts, you are at the wrong tree barking.

But the salient points I refer to would be any gravitational control system being applied to exert shear force against an object would be utterly devastating to that object.



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
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To help allay your obvious offense, and I thought this was obvious from the beginning of you and I knowing each other here, I am not a physicist.


I wouldn't want to offend you, BFFT, if I did I would sound different. I was just asking, really.


But the salient points I refer to would be any gravitational control system being applied to exert shear force against an object would be utterly devastating to that object.


Sorry I don't find it salient...

I donno, people usually apply the word "salient" to features and actual FACTS that aren't much in question themselves, much less a wacky hypothesis. It would be strange to say that a salient point of telepathy would be possible mind control. We simply don't know. In this case, can you even say that a parabolic wave shaper is even possible? And why does it necessarily have to be "shear" to be an effective weapon or defense against such? Where does the bogus figure of "1000+g" come from?

It's not about "offense", BFFT, it's about basic critical thinking.



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
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To help allay your obvious offense, and I thought this was obvious from the beginning of you and I knowing each other here, I am not a physicist.


I wouldn't want to offend you, BFFT, if I did I would sound different. I was just asking, really.


But the salient points I refer to would be any gravitational control system being applied to exert shear force against an object would be utterly devastating to that object.


Sorry I don't find it salient...

I donno, people usually apply the word "salient" to features and actual FACTS that aren't much in question themselves, much less a wacky hypothesis. It would be strange to say that a salient point of telepathy would be possible mind control. We simply don't know. In this case, can you even say that a parabolic wave shaper is even possible? And why does it necessarily have to be "shear" to be an effective weapon or defense against such? Where does the bogus figure of "1000+g" come from?

It's not about "offense", BFFT, it's about basic critical thinking.



LOL, i was not offended. I'm sorry I was misunderstood. I was being a little sarcastic, trying to prevent your "offense" (which I know doesn't exist...like i said, just being sarcastic).

A salient point of gravity control would be its weaponization. Based on human history, just about every invention is applied towards either war or porn I bet gravity control would make both extremely interesting (to use a bad term).

I know nothing about a parabolic wave shaper, or anything like that. What I do know is that increased gravity exerted on one segment of a construct would create this shear force. Its that "forces of gravity" that people refer to when they talk about what broke apart Shoemaker Levy.

But, as i mentioned, it is the weaponization of the technology that I commented on (and referenced the "flattening" capability that I had already mentioned).

Hope that helps clarify for you. BTW, I absolutely LOVE your avatar.



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 01:04 AM
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To understand the bernoullis equation I mentioned

www.engineeringtoolbox.com...

The partial derivative in respect to s means that the derivation of the equation requires calculus.

Calculus requires the effects of gravity to be continuous over the portion of the graph or system.

In this case g1 might be 9.8 m/s^2 but over the portion of the system where the device is affecting gravity it might be anything else. The introduction of a different g2 affects the requirement for conservation of energy.

How the requirement for conservation of energy if fulfilled in this case is not clear. So I propose that the energy might come from some other source like rotation momentum or heat energy. I hadn't figured that one out yet.

Sounds like a fun math puzzle.

P-



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 04:13 PM
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Physicists in Oriol Romero-Isart's research group have now shown that electron spin allows the stable levitation of a single nanomagnet in a static magnetic field, which should be impossible according to the classic Earnshaw theorem. The theoretical physicists carried out comprehensive stability analyses depending on the object's radius and the strength of the external magnetic field. The results showed that, in the absence of dissipation, a state of equilibrium appears. This mechanism relies on the gyromagnetic effect: Upon a change in direction of the magnetic field, an angular momentum occurs because the magnetic moment couples with the spin of the electrons. "This stabilizes the magnetic levitation of the nanomagnet," explains first author Cosimo Rusconi. In addition, the researchers showed that the equilibrium state of magnetically levitated nanomagnets exhibits entanglement of its degrees of freedom.

Phys.org, Oct. 27, 2017 - Nanomagnets levitate thanks to quantum physics.

If I have read the scansite.org article correctly, namely this (source: link)


In an HTSD, the tiny gravitational effect of each individual atom is multiplied by the billions of atoms in the disc. Using about one kilowatt of electricity, Li says, her device could potentially produce a force field that would effectively neutralize gravity above a 1-ft.-dia. region extending from the surface of the planet to outer space.


Then they have shown that quantum effects in electron can behave as Li said. That also means she is right.

I could also be misreading the whole thing. Nanomagnet, superconducting fluid, quantum mechanics, and gravity... is this the slow leak of the "quantum magic" (as I call it) that leads to secret space fleet?



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 04:18 PM
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Wow...this thread is a blast from the past.

I hope to read through your link tomorrow afternoon once life calms a bit.



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Throw back Friday? Probably, TEOT is bored is more like it!

This is a great thread! Happy to oblige!



The picture shows a levitron to give you some idea of what is happening at the atomic scale.

For a "how they work", MIT.edu: Levitron: Playing with Magnetic Levitation.



posted on Jan, 1 2020 @ 04:30 PM
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Looks like Dr. Ning Li was right. First Military sighting of tic tac around 2004. She said working prototype within 5 years in 1999.

And recently, these patents were filed by Navy.

futurism.com...

Also, remember the Sunspot Solar Observatory was closed in 2018 for unspecified reasons.Some internet sleuthing back then had speculation about espionage (Chinese) spying on White Sands DARPA test site.

knpr.org...
www.thedrive.com...

Why is White Sands and Holloman Air force base important? Because it is where the first X37 space craft were developed by Boeing for the government which later turned into the top secret X37B Spacecraft that had been carrying out top secret missions in space (also set a time in space record). Also a side note, The Boeing Starliner did an autonomous landing in White Sands recently. www.designation-systems.net...

Tying it all together

I speculate that these patents are a red herring to cover up the Tic Tac anomaly that was recently made public. They are made by the US government. I speculate that they are Plasma drones (Plasma has virtually no mass and can move as they were observed, showed radical speed and direction changes) to spoof radar as evidenced by 2 pitot tube looking antennae as seen from photos (their purpose is to maintain the plasma field). The mass of the structure I speculate was mitigated by Dr. Ning Li's research. I also speculate that they are powered by a larger submerged vehicle that controls and powers it through Electromagnetic propulsion (see below reference). This vehicle was the larger submerged vehicle witnessed by the F-18 pilots. Due to earths gravity, I speculate that these vehicles were launched from space by the x37B (as evidenced by the locale to White Sands and Hollomon Air Force Base (DARPA and Technical development base). I speculate the Chinese know this as well, which is why the Sunspot Solar Observatory was shut down.

en.wikipedia.org...

"There are multiple applications for EMP technologies in the field of aerospace. Many of these applications are conceptual as of now, however, there are also several applications that range from near term to next century.[11] One of such applications is the use of EMP to control fine adjustments of orbiting satellites. One of these particular systems is based on the direct interactions of the vehicle's own electromagnetic field and the magnetic field of the Earth. The thrust force may be thought of as an electrodynamic force of interaction of the electric current inside its conductors with the applied natural field of the Earth.[12] To attain a greater force of interaction, the magnetic field must be propagated further from the flight craft. The advantages of such systems is the very precise and instantaneous control over the thrust force. In addition, the expected electrical efficiencies are far greater than those of current chemical rockets that attain propulsion through the intermediate use of heat; this results in low efficiencies and large amounts of gaseous pollutants.[13] The electrical energy in the coil of the EMP system is translated to potential and kinetic energy through direct energy conversion. This results in the system having the same high efficiencies as other electrical machines while excluding the ejection of any substance into the environment.[13]
The current thrust-to mass ratios of these systems are relatively low. Nevertheless, since they do not require reaction mass, the vehicle mass is constant. Also, the thrust can be continuous with relatively low electric consumption.[12] The biggest limitation would be mainly the electrical conductance of materials to produce the necessary values of the current in the propulsion system"



posted on Jul, 6 2022 @ 09:54 AM
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Back on board..Just checking one of my old favorite threads. I see Ning Li is still gone.



posted on Jul, 6 2022 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: BlackProjects

As far as I know. I've given a cursory look or 2 over the years.

Given what we know now about China, its kind of unnerving to think we have been sending our best and brightest. It was known that they have a more lax regulatory system, and its obvious this was done in part to lure in business and science to steal intellectual property.

Whatever the US has on the hidden books was likely long ago stolen and cloned by China.



posted on Jul, 6 2022 @ 01:10 PM
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Or she was sent on a wild goose chase and the scientists within US SAP’s already had that science figured out since the 40’s. Someone who sadly dont post here anymore said the DaoD/DOE were over that type of research like hawks on rodents, and things just went poof… Gone.

As for Ning Li, i think she passed away.

en.m.wikipedia.org...(physicist)

www.berryhillfh.com...



posted on Jul, 7 2022 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: Etathia

Link

Lets see if that works.
edit on 7/7/2022 by bigfatfurrytexan because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 7 2022 @ 01:03 PM
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Cheers!

Messed that up somehow.

I find it a bit odd we dont hear more regarding that type of research, Ning Li / Podkletnov. Is it a dead end, is it stopped in its tracks by the gubmint or does it go dark?

I find it very interesting though, and it seems like there is something there…



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