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Supreme Court blocks vaccine mandate!

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posted on Jan, 13 2022 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Not quite, if my wife didnt show proof of vax by january 1st, she would have been fired....she works for a rather large corporate company.



posted on Jan, 13 2022 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

You are clearly confused.


Abbot's mandate isn't a law it's an executive order.

As was Biden's. Did you think Biden passed a law as President?


The whole point of at-will employment is that an employer can terminate an employee for any reason as long as it's not illegal.

Exactly. And since the termination would be in violation of the governor's EO, it would be illegal.

The Supreme Court said that states may place mandates... so a state may also forbid mandates. It's a state's rights issue.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 13 2022 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: chiefsmom

Private businesses are still allowed to enact their own mandates.

Also states can enact their own mandates.

Perhaps that's why private businesses are going away, and the government fingers are branching out to have holdings in more and more consumer products.
From day one I said it looked like a perfect plan to eliminate all but giant corporations.


About 49 percent of Americans live in households that receive some form of government benefits, according to the libertarian Mercatus Center at George Mason University, based on data from 2010.

sl... ate.com/news-and-politics/2012/09/romney-says-47-percent-of-americans-receive-direct-government-assistance-is-that-true.html

One in three citizens RELY on government assistance just to get by, and that number is going to rapidly increase. Inflation is increasing at record speed, and that's not sustainable. Is the goal to force the majority to rely on government handouts just to barely get by? Well, you don't bite the hand that feeds you. When we're all beholden' to Uncle Sam, he'll be putting us on a diet.



posted on Jan, 13 2022 @ 08:08 PM
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I've seen this show too many times before; I know how it ends.
They're being called to the oval office for a 'meeting', so we'll see how that goes.
Most of the crap Obama got away with was by calling Crybaby Bonehead in, and every single time congress got their way.
I don't know if Manchin and Sinema will get blackmailed, bribed or threatened, but I'll be surprised- no, shocked- if they stick to their guns.



posted on Jan, 13 2022 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Extremistcontent

Try to stop the spread of a virus? Those monsters.


Ill add my question to the que, how does the jab stop the spread?

Sec Def just got it, the dude has been jabbed 3 times, where's a mask and a face shield and appears to try and social distance.



posted on Jan, 13 2022 @ 08:15 PM
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Seems like the Biden Administration's plans are crumbling, and they are desperate to hold onto power and to keep their bogus media narratives going.


President Biden urged businesses to bring in vaccine mandates on their own and pushed states to 'do the right thing' after the Supreme Court voted 6-3 to block his sweeping rules on private companies in a crushing blow to his pandemic response.

The high court did however allow a vaccine mandate for employees at health care facilities receiving federal dollars to go into effect. Twenty-seven states had petitioned the Supreme Court to issue a stay on the rule while it is battled out in the judicial system.

It's the latest setback in a devastating 48 hours for Biden, who failed to get enough support among Senate Democrats to kill the filibuster and pass voting rights legislation.

He also saw his approval rating plummet to 33 percent in a Quinnipiac poll published Wednesday and inflation grow to its highest point in 40 years with a 7 percent price rise in December.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Biden has also just openly pleaded with corporate media outlets to censor 'disinformation'.

BlazeTV report and commentary.



posted on Jan, 13 2022 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: nugget1

1 strikes me as a bit of a B, so threats or bribes might backfire, the other has to worry about traveling back to West Virginia sooner or later, those hill billys dont forget.

Its going to have to be a monster of a bribe to get them to flip I think.



posted on Jan, 13 2022 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: Enduro


However, Kavanaugh (Trump appointee) and Roberts sided with the lefties on the court.

“We agree with the Government that the [Health and Human Services] Secretary’s rule falls within the authorities that Congress has conferred upon him,” the majority wrote.


If this is their reasoning for affirming the mandate on healthcare workers, there is nothing constitutional about that argument. I mean, who is to say that the congressional approval given to Health and Human Services authority is constitutional to begin with? Roberts and Kavanaugh are imposters.
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As I said several days ago, I have no more faith in this Supreme Court than I have in any other branch of this federal government. It is just as corrupted as the rest of the government.
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Making anyone submit to an untested and unauthorized experimental, so-called vaccine can't be constitutional in any, shape form or fashion.
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posted on Jan, 14 2022 @ 12:54 AM
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If anyone is interested in discussing the actual decisions instead of what a news reporter thinks of them, the decisions are online (.pdf format in both cases).

Decision on OSHA rule

Decision on Medicare/Medicaid providers


TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 14 2022 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

Who knew the second civil war over states rights would come down to trying to stop what will eventually be an endemic cold.



posted on Jan, 14 2022 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

By discrimination and removal of human rights?

Gtfo



posted on Jan, 14 2022 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

By discrimination and removal of human rights?

Gtfo



posted on Jan, 15 2022 @ 03:57 AM
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The news was telling us this as it was being discussed, supposedly before a decision was reached. Fancy that.

a reply to: Enduro



posted on Jan, 15 2022 @ 09:32 AM
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I recognize the sting of defeat might be prompting some of our left-leaning members to react in such an obtuse fashion, to deliberately get a rise out of people that are not in favor of government OR large private businesses dictating private health choices, but I would like to rebut a couple of points that were raised.

Number one, on private businesses having the ability to mandate COVID vaccination for terms of employment. before the passing of Americans With Disabilities act (ADA) there was frequent refusal to hire/termination of people based on acquisition of HIV (communicable disease), if that person let it be known to their employer. You might think "what does disability legislation have to do with HIV", but the fact is, under that law, most employers (over 15 employees) CANNOT hire/fire based on that health condition. Period. I would expect there to be an amendment to that law or another law to prevent this type of discrimination against those who cannot (contraindication) or will not take vaccines that are simply a preventive measure against diseases with very low mortality rate. If employers cannot discriminate against those with HIV (communicable, deadly disease with no cure), why should they get to discriminate against those who contract and spread COVID (communicable illness slightly more dangerous than influenza), when getting the vaccine also provides no guarantee against contracting/spreading COVID. Outside of the medical industry prior to 2020, probably 95%+ of private businesses outside the medical industry DID NOT mandate flu vaccine.

I expect legislation to combat this discrimination to be proposed at some point. Ironically, the political party that used to be advocates for prevention of health-based discrimination will likely fight tooth and nail to keep COVID mandates in place.

Maybe if COVID was only transmitted among homosexuals the Democrats might come around to ending vaccine mandates.

Second, I cannot imagine how delusional one might be to claim that the vaccine mandates DID NOT lead to large scale loss of employment in the past year.

That would be like a coroner, when brought a corpse that jumped off the Empire State building, saying "Welp, the fall didn't kill him. It was the massive organ explosion and pulverization of every bone in the person's body". Does organ explosion and bone pulverization frequently terminate people that don't, e.g. jump off a skyscraper. Do private businesses, in a wide-scale and coordinated manner, often introduce revisions to terms of employment to fire those don't comply with retroactive changes to T.o.E. that require HIPPA violations for the employer to process? Does this type of thing happen without, for example, E.O from POTUS to mandate vaccines?

This type of creative word parsing/pedantry sounds like MSM/politicians "planting a seed" to revise the ignominious legacy they created in 2020 by mass firing people due to opting not to take the COVID vaccine. I don't think it work. Most people, when they see a dead person that jumped of a skyscraper, when asked what the killed the person, would probably say a fall from 1200 feet onto a concrete surface.

Whenever the political reality of congress changes, I would fully expect hearings and the usual congressional pandering (usually just for optics) to their base by dragging people in front of them to answer uncomfortable questions about things they had done, for instance, firing swaths of the work force for non-compliance with Influenza vaccine v2.0. These things are nothing more than political drama, but BUT, as we have seen, if one were to LIE under oath in front of congress, for say denying doing something it can be factually proven they did (fire people without cause for Influenz vaccine v2.0), they should expect problems down the line. Immunity from perjury might be ok for the Fauccis of the world, but people lower down the pecking order will get no such reprieve.
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posted on Jan, 15 2022 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

well said

how rational, not gonna fly here



posted on Jan, 25 2022 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: imitator




Prepare for return fire, those leftists hate it when they don't get their way.


It's going to be interesting to see how this goes forward as the case continues to wind through the lower courts. Will the feds try to adjust the wording, get Congress to pass an emergency OSHA rule? Or will they again, this time in unity, throw up their hands and admit that there is no federal solution to ending the pandemic?


What is interesting is how the biden administration HAS WITHDRAWN its vaccine and testing mandate.
Biden CLEARLY got his scrawny ass kicked in this venture.



posted on Jan, 25 2022 @ 01:59 PM
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The New York supreme Court blocked that state's vaccine mandate today.



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