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The Trump Dump for another Republican

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posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

Isn't he though?



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: 19Bones79

Me: Siri, has Trump won any awards or been recommended for any ceremonies for the year 2021

Siri: I'm sorry, I couldn't find anything.

Me: Let's try again. Siri, did Trump do anything useful at all in the year 2021

Siri: I'm sorry, I couldn't find anything.

Maybe my Siri is broke.


edit on 10-1-2022 by TzarChasm because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 03:16 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Granitebones

Trump was the least worst president of my lifetime. I'm pretty neutral on if he wins. Personally, I'd rather see someone who can be a bit more effective without stirring every pot they walk past, but it doesn't really bother me.

That being said, both sides are extremely hyperbolic in their description of opposition in charge. The left acted like Trump in power was literally Hitler. The right acts like Biden is Mao. The left claims Russia got Trump into power and within our ranks, the right believes the same for China and Biden.

The devout partisans are all soy boys and crybabies if you ask me. Rather than take any accountability for their loss or ineffectiveness, they find everyone else to blame and create grand conspiracies with little to no evidence to project their feelings of disenfranchisement.


It's actually a lesson in brain washing. Some act like if he gets back in, the world will end, democracy will end, he will be a dictator. Well, he was in for 4 year, and none of that happened. In spite of all the fake charges against him he did some good things.

having said that, I'd prefer someone else be the GOP nominee and Trump advise and deflect. He makes a great magnet for hate, and his out of the DC box way of thinking has proved new ideas can work, but he would be more of a distraction this time around, and the haters would explode. (Which makes me not sad if he is the guy)

But the haters love to deny TDS, while wallowing in the middle of a TDS pile.



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

Maybe he won a golden globe, it wasn't televised I've been led to believe.



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: 19Bones79

Me: Siri, has Trump won any awards or been recommended for any ceremonies for the year 2021

Siri: I'm sorry, I couldn't find anything.

Me: Let's try again. Siri, did Trump do anything useful at all in the year 2021

Siri: I'm sorry, I couldn't find anything.

Maybe my Siri is broke.



Try this one: "Hey Siri, what should Donald Trump have done to make my TDS not as bad?"



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: TzarChasm

Maybe he won a golden globe, it wasn't televised I've been led to believe.



My bad, he actually did win the one and only "champion of freedom" soup bowl award. One and only means the award was literally invented for his sake.




posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: network dude

I think he could have done great if he handled the win with a bit more grace. But he couldn't help but to instigate with every opportunity. That approach helped him get elected with the free publicity, but he would have been more effective if he just let his opponents look silly while he ignored them.

But again, he was better than the rest of the presidents in my lifetime... So if he gets elected again, I wouldn't have high expectations with his methodology and target painted on him... But it would be better than a lot of other options.

I'm with you though, I think there could be more useful options in the next election. Maybe someone with less baggage and a bit more tact.

All that said, politically speaking I most closely align with the libertarians... So I'm used to being disappointed.



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: RazorV66

Yea, now we're doing it with Biden.

I believe it was you who said this was the worst admin of any country in the history of the planet link

It's rare policy gets discussed in a meaningful or productive way. It's just "my side is salvation, and oppenent's is damnation"


Meanwhile, the status quo stays the same. Elected officials continue to do insider trading on both sides of the aisle, and politicians leave their post to make cake in the private sector that they were at one time "overseeing/regulating".


Oh yes, I’ve said it many times and will continue to say it.
The more people I can reach with the truth, the better.


Hashtag every president is literally worse than Hitler according to 30%~ of voters.



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

"Asks Big Tech AI robot to source some positive news about the sole focus of their years-long by any means necessary disinfo/smear campaign" - comes back empty handed.

Duh



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 03:38 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: 19Bones79

Me: Siri, has Trump won any awards or been recommended for any ceremonies for the year 2021

Siri: I'm sorry, I couldn't find anything.

Me: Let's try again. Siri, did Trump do anything useful at all in the year 2021

Siri: I'm sorry, I couldn't find anything.

Maybe my Siri is broke.



Try this one: "Hey Siri, what should Donald Trump have done to make my TDS not as bad?"


He should have sustained or even escalated the 2014 moratorium on gain of function research to prevent the NIH/NIAID from continuing to endorse and fund the Wuhan project from 2017 to 2019, possibly even leveraged NATO into punishing Fauci's whole department given that their mad science was public knowledge back in 2015 and he could have saved literally the whole world from the pandemic if he wasn't so busy acting like a 55 year old RayWilliamJohnson trolling his political rivals and half assing the Afghanistan negotiations.

But he's not a problem anymore and he's only semi-relevant because his name is continually invoked by sycophants who are ironically more obsessed with his career and reputation than I am. But yeah, I'm deranged and manic and completely fixated on some crusty has-been. Let me know when Tucker Carlson announces his campaign, maybe I'll vote republican for the first time in my life.

edit on 10-1-2022 by TzarChasm because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 03:41 PM
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Would you prefer another AOC or Biden bashing thread? Been tons of those over the last couple days.

If you're in politics, you're going to get bashed? Trump picked politics. Oh well.

a reply to: RazorV66



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 04:02 PM
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We tell you but you don't listen.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON I KNOW WANTS, secure borders, a strong military, and low taxes.

The problem is bills have to be paid. So, we have taxes. I would love to have Congress, State and local jurisdictions cut spending, but the Right and Left spend like drunken sailors. I have been complaining about the debt since it was 4 trillion. That's too much, and now, LOL! Over 23 trillion. We'll someone has to pay for that. Sorry, but if you want to discuss tax policy, spending cuts, and equity in taxing people, no problem. But taxes are here to stay.

A strong military can be achieved for less than a trillion a year. Another policy issue we can discuss and find common ground on. But no one wants a weak military except Putin and enemies like him.

Secure borders. We all want secure borders, but how we achieve that is another POLICY issue that can be discussed. A wall over 2000 miles is ridiculous and doesn't make the border secure. Yes, in places, a wall is probably an excellent idea, but in others, not so much. Drones, more personnel, and so on can be agreed on if we discuss POLICIES.

This is how Dems feel about these issues. THEY ARE NOT BLACK AND WHITE TO THOSE OF US WHO DON'T FOLLOW THE CULT OF TRUMP.

The Republican party has long pushed policies aside. Remember how they were going to pass that great health care plan? I do. Republicans want to be the "victim" Party. The "grievance" Party. The "obstruction" Party.

Some of us would love to have those policy conversations, but only one Party comes to the table, and it ain't the Republicans.



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: MiddleInsite

I don't know if we can ever fix the debt problem now that pandoras box is opened.

One of the big problems is our shift to fiat currency, essentially our whole monetary policy.

Before hand congress had to vote before we spent, and the government was more constrained seeing as they were more on a debit type spending policy. The only work around was to sell bonds and then pay the interest to the bond buyers.

Now the fed can just issue new currency to fund "initiatives". Instead of an increase in taxes we see dilution and the decrease in purchasing power across the board.

The only two ways to fix this would be to restructure our financial system, which I don't see happening unless we get some maverick like Ron Paul again. Or, a populace that hold elected officials accountable, which is equally as doubtful.

At the end of the day, politicians and the current system are a symptom of an ailment, not the actual cause. We as the people are the root problem, we allowed this to happen, and even though we all agree the current state of affairs is dismal at best, we still have about a 50%~ participation level for eligible voters on a good presidential election and even less for state and local. Briefly touching on the latter, people expect too much out of the federal government which is another glaring symptom. This country isn't one sized fits all, and each state and locality should be handling a lionshare of governance, with very limited oversight or blanket gap filling by federal.

But alas, here we are... And I have very little hope that anything changes in the majorities best interest going forward. All we can do is arm ourselves with knowledge and address our induvidual circumstances to the best of our ability.



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: MiddleInsite

Trump had our border secure. Biden doesn't. You voted for Biden.

Trump wanted our taxes lowered. Biden doesn't. You voted for Biden.

Trump wanted a strong military. Biden doesn't. You voted for Biden.

Don't sit there and say you want all these things when you actively support candidates who are against these things.

I don't care WHO it is who wants those policies. They will get my vote. I could give a rats ass if they are an asshole, tweet mean, or slap ugly people on the streets.

The left has made a referendum of being against Trump as a mandate for socialism, open borders, high taxes.

And really, for once, you on the left really need to own it because your BS excuses and wordplay aren't cutting it any more.



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: MiddleInsite

That word you use..”cult”. I do not think it means what you think it means.



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

There are now two parties within the GOP, one dedicated to the US and it’s values, .


Now that is the funniest thing I read in a while.

Trump is an idiot, not dementia Joe supporter level idiot, but anyone that thinks the Republican party or the Democrat party is dedicated to the US and its values should be considered a terrorist and as the reason our govt is pimped to the highest globalist oligarch bidder.

Unless ofcourse you think the US values and loyalties is based on corporate greed, then yes the republican and democrat party are loyal.


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posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: network dude

I think he could have done great if he handled the win with a bit more grace. But he couldn't help but to instigate with every opportunity. That approach helped him get elected with the free publicity, but he would have been more effective if he just let his opponents look silly while he ignored them.


If he wasn't Donald J. Trump, folks might like him. He has always been who he is. ego driven, kind of a dick.



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: 19Bones79

Me: Siri, has Trump won any awards or been recommended for any ceremonies for the year 2021

Siri: I'm sorry, I couldn't find anything.

Me: Let's try again. Siri, did Trump do anything useful at all in the year 2021

Siri: I'm sorry, I couldn't find anything.

Maybe my Siri is broke.



Try this one: "Hey Siri, what should Donald Trump have done to make my TDS not as bad?"


He should have sustained or even escalated the 2014 moratorium on gain of function research to prevent the NIH/NIAID from continuing to endorse and fund the Wuhan project from 2017 to 2019, possibly even leveraged NATO into punishing Fauci's whole department given that their mad science was public knowledge back in 2015 and he could have saved literally the whole world from the pandemic if he wasn't so busy acting like a 55 year old RayWilliamJohnson trolling his political rivals and half assing the Afghanistan negotiations.

But he's not a problem anymore and he's only semi-relevant because his name is continually invoked by sycophants who are ironically more obsessed with his career and reputation than I am. But yeah, I'm deranged and manic and completely fixated on some crusty has-been. Let me know when Tucker Carlson announces his campaign, maybe I'll vote republican for the first time in my life.


was the whuan funding on your radar back then? And this tickles me to death, Trump just got the job, had ZERO clue as to exactly what "the job" entailed, and Fauci uses the opportunity to sneak the crap even Obama thought was a bad idea, back in to funding, and you think he should have known that and stopped it? Oh, and he's literally the dumbest person on Earth, times 10. At times, I don't think you guys put enough effort into your hate. No cohesiveness.



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: network dude

I think he could have done great if he handled the win with a bit more grace. But he couldn't help but to instigate with every opportunity. That approach helped him get elected with the free publicity, but he would have been more effective if he just let his opponents look silly while he ignored them.


If he wasn't Donald J. Trump, folks might like him. He has always been who he is. ego driven, kind of a dick.


Truly being anti-establishment or populist is going to take a different breed of person... One I doubt we'll ever see given our fractured societal stance.

They're going to go after anyone who made it to the chair, or are too close for comfort.

And that's not unique to Trump. Bernie doesn't really get a lot of media interaction, maybe some stories or mentions of him here or there, but he's not one of the "regulars" even though he was likely the most loved candidate from the left since Obama. And we could argue how palatable his policies are/were, but he was still smoking Hillary and she had to cheat to win.

Ron Paul got screwed the same way as Bernie by the GOP. Noam Chomsky is blacklisted by corpo media, Tulsi Gabbard rarely gets featured or even allowed a chance to rebuttal accusations of being a Russian pawn. Andrew Yang has been accused of being a favorite of white supremists.

In today's world, the easiest and most effective ways of taking out dissidents is silencing and character assassination. This certainly happened to Trump, but I think we lose sight that it's not exclusive to him or one ideology... It's any person or group that threatens the status quo.

The only way we're going to retain or regain the top spot for hearts and minds or the bastion of liberty is if we have a competitive marketplace for ideas. And as it stands, we have a weak two party system that are almost indistinguishable from one another.

I think the world is changing at an incredibly fast rate, and we're dangerously close minded about hearing out different ideas and opinions on how to tackle the issues at hand much less be proactive about future ones. And I think most ideologies and a good portion of society are guilty of this. Maybe it's because the internet gave us such easy access to bubbles of like minded people we forgot how to branch out and enjoy or at least humor other schools of thoughts.



posted on Jan, 10 2022 @ 08:08 PM
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I think the world is changing at an incredibly fast rate, and we're dangerously close minded about hearing out different ideas and opinions on how to tackle the issues at hand much less be proactive about future ones. And I think most ideologies and a good portion of society are guilty of this. Maybe it's because the internet gave us such easy access to bubbles of like minded people we forgot how to branch out and enjoy or at least humor other schools of thoughts.


At some point we'll have to talk about the social environment in which those behaviors are being reproduced, and how the media amplifies them. Capitalism isn't going to release the pressure on it's own, or provide the basic needs for disenfranchised and marginalized people. It's going to need our help, especially in the future.


“As naturally as the ruled always took the morality imposed upon them more seriously than did the rulers themselves, the deceived masses are today captivated by the myth of success even more than the successful are. Immovably, they insist on the very ideology which enslaves them. The misplaced love of the common people for the wrong which is done to them is a greater force than the cunning of the authorities.”

― Theodor Adorno, Dialectic of Enlightenment: Philosophical Fragments



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