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Russia President Vladimir Putin seems to be Intimidated by U.S. President Joe Biden.

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posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 08:31 PM
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Thursday, December 30, 2021

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Joseph Biden are old acquaintances, having met several times over the past 12 years.

Despite Joe Biden referring to Putin as a murderous "Killer", who "doesn't have a soul", the Russian President still tries to avoid making Joe too angry.
Putin is a "Killer": www.abovetopsecret.com...
Putin "has no soul": www.nbcnews.com...

The two Presidents spoke by live teleconference 3 weeks ago. Biden laid down the law: www.cnn.com...

After thinking over the ultimatum from Biden, Putin said he was ready to talk, and set up a follow-up phone conversation. The two men spoke this morning for the better part of an hour.

In a 50-minute call, their second conversation this month, Biden said he needed to see Russia decrease its military build-up near Ukraine, while Putin said sanctions threatened by Washington and allies could lead to a rupture in ties. The call was requested by Putin.

The Kremlin said Biden appeared to agree with Putin's contention that Moscow needed some security guarantees from the West and also that he said the United States did not intend to deploy offensive weapons in Ukraine.

Putin has compared the current tensions to the Cold War-era Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.
More at: www.reuters.com...

Is it possible that due to the long-running relationship between the two men, and Joe's "tough talk", President Putin honestly believes President Biden will carry out his threats to damage Russia, if Russia invades the country of Ukraine?

Putin certainly seems to be bending over backwards to keep from pushing Biden too far, doesn't he? What do ATS Foreign Policy experts think?

-CareWeMust

edit on 12/30/2021 by carewemust because: (no reason given)


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posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 08:39 PM
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Putin is afraid that he will turn dementiated if he talks to Biden too much so he agrees to his face, but Putin is not afraid of Biden in the white house, the media just wants to make us believe he is.

It is propaganda thrown at the American people. Putin is not the bad person that Biden says he is, he is letting this country fall apart by itself. I bet Putin was smiling and agreeing with Biden because he wants him to keep up his screwing up our country. The worst thing for Putin is if the American people came together as one again, we are being divided by politicians which makes our country weak. The criminals have more rights here than good citizens it seems...this is good to see if you are a Russian president, Putins citizens will get stronger allied to him if they see the chaos and anarchy here in America.

There are many ways to do propaganda to grow your strength. I bet Putin is back in his home with friends having a good laugh about the future downfall of the USA.


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posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 08:47 PM
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It is the other way around, Biden keeps complaining that Russia parked several tank divisions near the border with Ukraine.
Anybody who thinks Russia is intimidated is not interpreting signals correctly.

Putin is warning Biden, push any harder and USA will be dealing with World War lll



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

I agree. He is far from afraid of out umm president. It's honestly the best time for him to sit back and laugh. He has NOTHING to be afraid of, which is the worst thing for us in the US. He could make a move, and watch our umm presidet fumble words.uum we'll ummm my legs are hairy....Dear God



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: RIPMH370
a reply to: rickymouse
Yeah.
Not buying what the western MSM is selling about that "meeting".
Didn't seem to agree with what I saw in RT.

The whole truth?
Who knows.........



edit on Thu Dec 30 2021 by DontTreadOnMe because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

OK... so your opinion is that Putin is just "feeling out" Biden's administration to see how tough they are. He already knows Biden himself is (mostly) all talk?


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posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 08:55 PM
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Oh yeah,big bad Russia putting their own military in their own country.
The world's police men are at it again.
Ukraine isn't even in NATO so mind your own business Brandon or are you worried this might hamper Hunters dodgy income from Ukraine.
The 'big guy' scared of losing his percentage is he.



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 08:58 PM
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No to all .
And what's up with the lies of the MSM and US government on Crimea and a "Russian invasion" ?


The Crimean status referendum of 2014 was a disputed referendum concerning the status of Crimea, held on March 16, 2014 in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the local government of Sevastopol (both subdivisions of Ukraine). The referendum was approved and held amidst Russia's implementation of a military presence in Crimea.[2][3] The referendum asked local populations whether they wanted to join Russia as a federal subject, or if they wanted to restore the 1992 Crimean constitution and Crimea's status as a part of Ukraine. The official result from the Autonomous Republic of Crimea was a 97 percent vote for integration of the region into the Russian Federation with an 83 percent voter turnout,


2014 Crimean status referendum

I am sick and tired of the effin lies put forward and gobbled up , without thinking , by a lot of ignorant US citizens .
That is EXACTLY why this country is going to hell in a handbasket .

I no longer have any reservations on posting this :


“Wizard's First Rule: people are stupid." Richard and Kahlan frowned even more. "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.


Wizard's First Rule Terry Goodkind

/End Rant
edit on 12/30/21 by Gothmog because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: carewemust
It is hardly Biden doing any intimidating, it's the folks making him dance their strings. The Russians see the current leadership ready and willing to war with Russia. Russians have suffered more horrific losses in war during WW2 alone than the USA could ever imagine.

The Monarchs of Europe clearly have no problem having their land pitted with craters once again. It seems the Russians have a better memory than the people of Europe. As Americans we don't give a damn because the only one of our folks going to be dying are the volunteer fighters and a bunch of machines. Even the Russians cannot reach out and touch our mainland without the use of nukes. Europe on the other hand, just pick a mark and they can hit it.



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 09:01 PM
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Are the official transcripts and recordings available?



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 09:05 PM
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What happens if Russia decides to take Ukraine and China decides to take Taiwan at the same time?

No agreement to help each other or anything militarily, just a simple agreement to make their moves on the same day.

I doubt if there would be much of anything the US or NATO could do in response. A nightmare scenario indeed.



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 09:05 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Why would ANYONE be "afraid" of Biden, a senile, incompetent pedophile who shyts his pants ?
Particularly after Biden's Afghanistan disaster.

No.
Putin was being a "diplomat"


There is a real risk here of Biden triggerring WW3 by sheer incompetence, bravado and hubris.



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Surprised Biden didn’t talk about crossing a red line like his old boss.



It was still tottering last year, when Obama made an even more unwise remark: he said that any use of illegal chemical weapons by Assad would represent the crossing of a red line, which would force the West to act.


www.dailymail.co.uk...




posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 09:11 PM
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If you look at the situation objectively it doesn't seem all that remarkable.

An unpopular Joe Biden can't stop Russia militarily; even supporting the Ukrainian to heavily militarily would probably lose Biden some more of those approval points he can't afford to lose right now. He does have the ecomic power of the west he can muster to the cause but that power has wanned over the last decade. If Biden asks the western world for to much economically right now; many countries might tell him 'No'.

Putin doesn't want to occupy Ukrainian; occupations become unpopular fast and they cost a lot. He does want a fearful Ukrainian and NATO to back up; so his militarily build up accomplish that. Putin does have to keep the support of the oligarchs so he does have to avoid more and try to decrease western sections.

Each man has a different line to walk; so they are dancing with each other. Putin is trying to push were he can with out pushing to hard. Biden is trying hold himself together while being pushed.



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 09:14 PM
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originally posted by: RIPMH370
It is the other way around, Biden keeps complaining that Russia parked several tank divisions near the border with Ukraine.
Anybody who thinks Russia is intimidated is not interpreting signals correctly.

Putin is warning Biden, push any harder and USA will be dealing with World War lll


The "experts" in the media today made it sound like Putin requested the follow-up call with Joe Biden this morning, to smooth over ruffled Biden feathers. He didn't have to try, but he did try.



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 09:15 PM
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originally posted by: SuperDave90
Are the official transcripts and recordings available?


Maybe Lt Col Tubby Vindman can take over the Ukraine negotiations for Biden?
He lives in about the same fantasy land that Biden does.



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: boredhere74
a reply to: rickymouse

I agree. He is far from afraid of out umm president. It's honestly the best time for him to sit back and laugh. He has NOTHING to be afraid of, which is the worst thing for us in the US. He could make a move, and watch our umm presidet fumble words.uum we'll ummm my legs are hairy....Dear God


I wouldn't let Joe know your legs are hairy, if you ever meet the guy.



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: RIPMH370
Yeah.
Not buying what the western MSM is selling about that "meeting".
Didn't seem to agree with what I saw in RT.

The whole truth?
Who knows.........




RT = Russian Times newspaper???



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 09:22 PM
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It's a ruse !!

Russia has so far gotten big returns on "Biden" 😸



posted on Dec, 30 2021 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: glen200376
Oh yeah,big bad Russia putting their own military in their own country.
The world's police men are at it again.
Ukraine isn't even in NATO so mind your own business Brandon or are you worried this might hamper Hunters dodgy income from Ukraine.
The 'big guy' scared of losing his percentage is he.


Good point. Maybe Ukraine told Biden to protect them from Russia, or they'll spill all the beans on the Biden family. (Joe Biden is already under a court subpoena from Ukraine....but is ignoring it.)



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