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New Superman comes out as bisexual in upcoming DC comic

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posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: sciencelol

I don't think there's any problem about 'gay' or 'bisexuality' or whatnot. Superman can be a lesbian for all anyone should care.

It's not even the forced celebration of this type of perversion.

It's that Superman suddenly _HAS_ a sexuality, that's a problem in my opinion. Superheroes should not go there. Superheroes should be people the masses can look up to, fantasize about because of their superpowers, their goodness, protecting and serving, saving and fighting against supervillains.

Superheroes are supposed to live in a fantasy Universe that's not exactly identical to ours, where all kinds of fantastic things can happen. When you suddenly open up 'sexuality' for superheroes, it destroys the fantasy and brings them to our mundane, crazy, messed-up world, and you can no longer use a superhero for escapism into a Universe where politically-correct crap and SJWs don't exist.

I don't care if Superman is heterosexual or not - it would be just as bad if he starts talking about getting laid yesterday in a bar. Who wants THAT superhero?!

Superman should NOT HAVE ANY SEXUALITY, period.



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: DAVG1980



Ultimately the goal is for the human being to be hermaphrodite


It's marginally possible, considering that's how people were in the beginning here, it took a long time to finally be able to have the Terran people's bodies divide into clear, separate two genders and get masculine and feminine traits. So basically we're going to go back to the roots, although it took a lot of trouble and work to get 'genders' to manifest? How backwards is that?

On the other hand, I wouldn't really mind, who really cares what the bodies are like on a given planet; you can always decide to incarnate on a different planet next time. It would also guarantee access to sex for almost everyone, since there would no longer be a class who can't get any.



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: Necrobile

The thing about Superman is .. has it ever been really good?

In the beginning, it was corny and ridiculous, as was the style at the time. After some time passed, it became childish and moronic, etc.

Superman the comic was always a pain to read, pretty much no matter which decade you choose. In the eighties they brought Byrne in to improve it, and it worked for a short while, but the whole thing became pretty bad soon. I can't remember Superman ever having a really good manifestation.

Maybe the nineties cartoon is the best the whole Superman character has to offer.

Before someone gets angry about this, I'll just say this: Christopher Reeve is a good and charismatic actor, and his Superman movies are mostly very entertaining and fun to watch. However, storywise, nothing that interesting ever happens, when you think about it. Superman II is probably the best, because it has at least some 'super fights' against supervillains, but since they're all invulnerable, the fight doesn't really go anywhere but a lot of property destruction.

My point here, of course, is that they can't really ruin something that was never very good to begin with. If you look at the comics, you'll find really ridiculous, cringy things, like 'thinking Superdog' and 'Supergirl' and 'Superboy from a parallel Universe (of course, sigh) that's stronger than Superman', and so on.

Sure, a couple of interesting ideas here or there, but even those were basically copied from true Earth history or something, like the very 'Atlantian'-seeming story about people living inside a giant robot that's activated by archaeologists (something similar actually happened in Atlantis - I mean, the story of how the more powerful enslaved the less powerful, except that in Atlantis, it was actually 'stronger in lower spiritual abilities while being weak against temptation')

Superman should've died a long time ago, for real. Not the fake death they did.. I guess greedy people just can't kill a cash cow..



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: sraven
superman isn't a man . . .
he is an alien . . .
it isn't sex . . . it is probing


There's so much to unpack here, I don't know if I can do your post justice.

First of all, are you suggesting people living on other planets are not MEN just because of the physical location of their physical body?? So if you are transported to another planet, you CEASE TO BE A MAN?

Secondly, no one else is a man, either - we're all HUMAN BEINGS, regardless of ANY physical qualities, even planetary physical body birth location! Why would you think otherwise? Body does not dictate what you are, your soul does! A human that looks like a tiger is a human, an animal that looks like human is still just an animal. Got it?

Thirdly, he's called SuperMAN (emphasis mine). Super.. Man. What word was that again? Oh yes, MAN. M-A-N.

What about THAT spells "not a man" to you??

Fourthly, using an alienating word like 'alien' is not very inclusive or fair of you. Just because someone lives in a different apartment, house, field, prefecture, state, country, land, or planet, doesn't mean they're suddenly an ALIEN. You call 'alien' what you don't understand. So familiarize yourself with your other-planetary brother, and they won't even seem like 'aliens' anymore.

Anyone that knows about the movies with the word 'Alien' somewhere in the title, should know to treat other-planetary human beings, who are usually on much HIGHER level on all possible ways, with at least a BIT more respect!

Calling someone an alien is a hostile, toxic, insulting act, and I can't believe there are people as primitive as those that choose to use such a word to describe a perfectly good human being just because of the planet where their body was created on! (It might also be a spaceship, baseship, beamship, or something like that - in some rare cases, it could also be a body created from 'surrounding materials' at the destination location, but this usually requires quite a high spiritual and energy level, so it's not common).

Alien? I think regular people of THIS planet are way more 'aliens', especially to actual humanity and proper human beings than anyone you are referring to.

I think Superman is more human and less alien - although fictional - than typical Terran folk.

Now, let's talk about your complete lack of grammar, wrong usage of commas, lack of capitalization, lack of sentence structure. You dare call someone else insulting names, while you can't even form one, simple coherent sentence in the easiest language in the world?

To add - EVEN if you were correct in everything else, with WHAT logic it "isn't sex", if an 'alien' and 'human' copulate? Sex is sex, even if it's with human and a bicycle. That part of your post makes absolutely no sense.

Why would 'sex' change to 'probing' just because of birth location of a temporary physical body?

Superman is not his body, Superman is his soul. He's still gonna be the same soul, same Superman even after his current physical body dies and he's incarnated to a different, probably less powerful body.

This basically disproves everything you are (poorly and barely) saying.



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Ok, here's my take on the whole 'sexuality' thing.

I don't care what someone's sexuality is.

I don't want to KNOW about it. It's not important. It doesn't define anyone. Whatever you want to poke in your free time, is no one else's business but yours and the pokée's. It isn't relevant to the character, it's not relevant to the story, it's not a lifestyle.

I mean, some people choose to live a 'certain lifestyle', but they could just as well live the exact same 'lifestyle' with any kind of sexuality or even asexuality. (Look up 'metrosexuals', if you disagree)

So what's left? Just don't include 'sexuality' into anywhere where it doesn't belong. Superheroes don't need to HAVE a sexuality, they don't need to talk about sexuality, do sexual things or acts, or belong to a 'lifestyle' or 'sexual group' of any kind.

To me, it would be equally bad if some Superhero is 'proudly announcing he's gay' than if another Superhero is 'proudly announcing she's a heterosexual'.

It's just bad form to include sexuality where it doesn't belong. KEEP SEXUALITY OUT OF THE PUBLIC DOMAIN - it's a private thing, it should remain private, no matter WHAT it is. Gay people are probably disgusted if they're forced to look at some old hag's 'between-big-toes' area when they least expect it. It's just as natural for heterosexual people to be disgusted to be forced to witness a homosexual or bisexual act, especially if it happens in the public, where it doesn't belong.

(Bill Burr did a funny bit about this, but he's 100% correct in that bit - not sure if you can even find that anywhere)

Don't bring your sexuality out in the public, keep it private, no matter what it is. Don't CELEBRATE your sexuality, regardless of what it is. I don't need to know what you do in the bedroom, I don't care, I won't forbid you from doing that, just don't force me to witness it.

I mean, we're human beings, capable of so much more than wallowing in the mud with naked bodies, right? So act like it, ok?



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: ConcernedCanadian



As a young gay comic book fan I assure you Superman always was.


There you go, bringing your sexuality into the mix with the first thing you say. Why? Do you think this somehow gives you extra credence or credit? What happened to don't ask, don't tell? I don't identify as sexuality, why should you? We're human beings, and as such, not defined by such things - your body might have that kind of lusts and cravings now, but wait 5 incarnations into the future, and it might be completely different. So YOU are neither 'young' nor 'gay' - you're falsely identifying with temporary bodily lusts and hormonal signals that have nothing to do with you in the more cosmic sense. I

Also, your assurance doesn't really mean the same as 'fact'.

Superman doesn't and shouldn't have sexuality. Of course in this world, no one can tell any story without eventually ruining it with some kind of 'romance crap' (name 5 movies, especially box office hits, that do not have any kind of romance - not so easy, is it?).

With Lois Lane and Lana Lang (L-obsessed writers should be sacked), Superman was proven to be romantic towards women. Superman has actually kissed multiple women in the stories that span from comics to TV shows and cartoons to movies. I have never seen him kiss a man, or display interest in a man.

In any case, what evidence do you have besides 'assurance' that probably comes from a fantasy in your case? (Hey, if you are going to bring out your sexuality where it doesn't belong, I am going to use it to back up my arguments or attack yours, it's fair game at this point)

Superman is a superhero, and as such, doesn't have sex - even his romances are very subtle and superficial, and eventually go nowhere. Therefore, Superman has no sexuality. He may have 'romantic feelings', but no sexuality. He doesn't necessarily even have similar hormones to Earth people, so your arguments need something way stronger than 'assurances'.

It's fun to fantasize, but that's where it ends - Superman was never gay, and was never intended to be gay.



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: Brotherman



Mwahaha oh wait


That was actually funny!

However, you do need a comma or two somewhere in there, in addition to proper punctuation.

How about this:

"Mwahahahaa!! Oh, wait..."

I added a bit longer 'haa' at the end to signify the madness of the maniacal laugh, emphasized the volume of the laugh with a couple of exclamation points for similar purposes, then started the next sentiment with a capital letter, added a proper comma and then three dots to signify the 'moment of realization that makes one pause for awhile'.



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: Shoujikina

I'm with you on most of this Shou. I don't really care either who is doing whom.
However keeping it out of the public sphere is going to be quite a chore huh? Do we include kissing in public? That's part of sex isn't it? Are we to eliminate all forms of public affection? Hugging, kissing, holding hands?

There was a time we know that even a woman showing an ankle was considered a display of sexuality. Boys and girls holding hands was deemed beyond acceptable . Where do we draw that line.

I think we are not mature enough to deal with how other people might differ from us in these ''taboo'' areas. It's a morass for sure.

And yes we are human beings capable of so much more than wallowing in the mud with naked bodies, but that's not saying and an occasional wallow in the mud with naked bodies might not be a good thing now and then huh? But this condemning others for their personal preferences is or at least should be way behind us by now.

And oh, Superman? He ain't human or real so none of it should matter anyway.



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 06:13 PM
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:spew:



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: Shoujikina

What are you talking about? Lois and Clark have been flirting since the 40s. Hell, they've been married for almost 50 years. There was even a comic called "Superman's Girl Friend, Lois Lane" that ran from '58 until '74.

To say that Superman lacked a sexuality or that comics didn't deal with sexuality (romance comics were huge from '47 to '77) until recently is absolutely ridiculous. The fact that you also try to claim that comics didn't used to deal with social issues is also extremely laughable.



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: sciencelol

Wasn't Superman always a bit Gay, a nice set of tights, A flowing cape.



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: vonclod

Well look how that formula worked in Re writing bat girl as a lesbian black woman? Yea it was so bad they had to cancel it… fans don’t have an interest in this woke tactic. Truthfully what audience is this crap intended for?

I don't know, as far as I read, this is going to be in the comic book world. I have no idea about the comic book market these days. But I guess they can explore this character without going broke..like when a movie flops.

I actually suspect it will initially sell well, comic book people are collectors at heart.


Woke culture bankrupted the comic book business. Its dead in the water as people reject all the woke crap it had become.



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Necrobile

If you think modern comics are woke, just wait until you learn about what Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were doing in the 60s.

Hell, Kirby had Captain America punching Hitler in the face in 1940.


That could not fly today. Cap America punchin a socialist in the face and all.



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: sciencelolyeah why do they feel the need to push this so hard down our throats.
i don't know maybe because they want to come across as more mainstream? they already having this character take over for his dad as superman probably because they know that soon superman/clark kent is going to be copyright free so they created a new character that dc owns outright to keep the trademark going. all i see happening is some more people switching over to marvel comics.



posted on Oct, 14 2021 @ 10:49 PM
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a reply to: Shoujikina

Superman as a character suffers from being too powerful. In order to truly challenge him, you have to have antagonists with almost ridiculous levels of power.

In order to try to put some checks on him, his boyscout personality was given to him to give him such a strict sense of honor and morality that those qualities would hold him back where lack of raw power and ability would otherwise not hamper him at all. Unfortunately, it's very hard to get today's jaded society to see morals as desirable trait in anything.



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 12:31 AM
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originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: vonclod

Well look how that formula worked in Re writing bat girl as a lesbian black woman? Yea it was so bad they had to cancel it… fans don’t have an interest in this woke tactic. Truthfully what audience is this crap intended for?

I don't know, as far as I read, this is going to be in the comic book world. I have no idea about the comic book market these days. But I guess they can explore this character without going broke..like when a movie flops.

I actually suspect it will initially sell well, comic book people are collectors at heart.


Woke culture bankrupted the comic book business. Its dead in the water as people reject all the woke crap it had become.

Been about 2 1/2 decades since I collected, and that was a lot of Epic stuff, Clive Barker/Hellraiser, modern horror stuff. I never bothered with the superhero..maybe some of the dark Batman stuff. I think it was a decent time for the industry, I don't get that vibe now.
edit on 15-10-2021 by vonclod because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 06:16 AM
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a reply to: vonclod

This is how it is now. The following vid is from 1 year ago and explains and shows it better then i could in a post :




And this one, more recent:




posted on Oct, 15 2021 @ 06:34 PM
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originally posted by: Shoujikina

originally posted by: sraven
superman isn't a man . . .
he is an alien . . .
it isn't sex . . . it is probing


There's so much to unpack here, I don't know if I can do your post justice.

First of all, are you suggesting people living on other planets are not MEN just because of the physical location of their physical body?? So if you are transported to another planet, you CEASE TO BE A MAN?

Secondly, no one else is a man, either - we're all HUMAN BEINGS, regardless of ANY physical qualities, even planetary physical body birth location! Why would you think otherwise? Body does not dictate what you are, your soul does! A human that looks like a tiger is a human, an animal that looks like human is still just an animal. Got it?

Thirdly, he's called SuperMAN (emphasis mine). Super.. Man. What word was that again? Oh yes, MAN. M-A-N.

What about THAT spells "not a man" to you??

Fourthly, using an alienating word like 'alien' is not very inclusive or fair of you. Just because someone lives in a different apartment, house, field, prefecture, state, country, land, or planet, doesn't mean they're suddenly an ALIEN. You call 'alien' what you don't understand. So familiarize yourself with your other-planetary brother, and they won't even seem like 'aliens' anymore.

Anyone that knows about the movies with the word 'Alien' somewhere in the title, should know to treat other-planetary human beings, who are usually on much HIGHER level on all possible ways, with at least a BIT more respect!

Calling someone an alien is a hostile, toxic, insulting act, and I can't believe there are people as primitive as those that choose to use such a word to describe a perfectly good human being just because of the planet where their body was created on! (It might also be a spaceship, baseship, beamship, or something like that - in some rare cases, it could also be a body created from 'surrounding materials' at the destination location, but this usually requires quite a high spiritual and energy level, so it's not common).

Alien? I think regular people of THIS planet are way more 'aliens', especially to actual humanity and proper human beings than anyone you are referring to.

I think Superman is more human and less alien - although fictional - than typical Terran folk.

Now, let's talk about your complete lack of grammar, wrong usage of commas, lack of capitalization, lack of sentence structure. You dare call someone else insulting names, while you can't even form one, simple coherent sentence in the easiest language in the world?

To add - EVEN if you were correct in everything else, with WHAT logic it "isn't sex", if an 'alien' and 'human' copulate? Sex is sex, even if it's with human and a bicycle. That part of your post makes absolutely no sense.

Why would 'sex' change to 'probing' just because of birth location of a temporary physical body?

Superman is not his body, Superman is his soul. He's still gonna be the same soul, same Superman even after his current physical body dies and he's incarnated to a different, probably less powerful body.

This basically disproves everything you are (poorly and barely) saying.


that is some funny # right there



posted on Oct, 17 2021 @ 01:36 PM
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Hmm..I gotta hit this.

Short take:

It's all goood
aka
Lithium is being crushed into our water.
More to come.

...police had warned of repercussions
they followed none too soon.
A Trickling of Strangers...

# 1443
edit on 17-10-2021 by TheWhiteKnight because: (no reason given)




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