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Applause worthy Psy-op. Well played lefties.

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posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 09:29 AM
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www.pewresearch.org...

Socialism’s critics say it weakens work ethic; those with positive views say it fosters equality
For many Americans, “socialism” is a word that evokes a weakened work ethic, stifled innovation and excessive reliance on the government. For others, it represents a fairer, more generous society.

Critics of socialism point to Venezuela as an example of a country where it has failed. People with positive views of socialism cite different countries, such as Finland and Denmark, as places where it has succeeded.


55% against, and 42% are FOR socialism.

As I was thinking of how on earth any American could get behind forced vaccinations, I was reminded of this factoid. Now anyone who is worth their salt as a historian, knows at least that Socialism doesn't work. It's fantastic in theory, but when you factor in greed, the maths don't work anymore.

But where did this come from? It didn't just spring up, it's been hammered into the "highly educated" from those wonderful schools of higher learning. And today we have the results of that little experiment. 42% If there ever was an even to personify SMMFH, this is it.

I'd ask "what do we do about it?" but the answer is a long one.



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: network dude



I'd ask "what do we do about it?" but the answer is a long one.

Offer all progressive liberals a vacation on Mars.(one way and they have to furnish their own way back)
About 80% would be overjoyed.

Situation resolved .



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Just more fake numbers

Like polls and covid deaths



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: network dude



I'd ask "what do we do about it?" but the answer is a long one.

Offer all progressive liberals a vacation on Mars.(one way and they have to furnish their own way back)
About 80% would be overjoyed.

Situation resolved .


Why would you want to mess up the only other reachable planet that present day humans might be able to make livable? Send them to the Sun, the level of contamination will be much less that way.
edit on 9 12 2021 by beyondknowledge because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: sciencelol
a reply to: network dude

Just more fake numbers

Like polls and covid deaths


I'm not banking on any poll being right, but if more than 2% of Americans think socialism is a good direction to go in, we have lost the plot. They must not teach history in school anymore. I remember my first class in Socialism teaching about how that system never fails, and always provides for the people. Then someone said something about bread lines and we watched a cool video about skateboarding and did some word searches. I got an A.


www.heritage.org...
edit on 12-9-2021 by network dude because: Beto, what a stupid name.



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: beyondknowledge

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: network dude



I'd ask "what do we do about it?" but the answer is a long one.

Offer all progressive liberals a vacation on Mars.(one way and they have to furnish their own way back)
About 80% would be overjoyed.

Situation resolved .


Why would you want to mess up the only other reachable planet that we might be able to make livable? Send them to the Sun, the level of contamination will be much less that way.


and everyone would have such a bright future!



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 10:08 AM
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Of course,

What can we expect when we have "unopposed institutionalized socialism" being pushed in schools and colleges across the nation?


University of Kansas student body president shares ‘Death to America’ tweet

www.thecollegefix.com...

Student government official caught red-handed yanking flags from 9/11 memorial

www.thecollegefix.com...


A student senator at Washington University in St. Louis was nabbed red-handed removing American flags from a 9/11 memorial on this day of tribute.

When the Young America’s Foundation contacted Alkilani about the incident, he told the group “I did not violate any university or legal policy. Now go away.”

The senator said in a now-protected tweet that he plucked the flags as a “protest against American imperialism and the 900,000 lives lost as a result of post 9/11 war.”




‘Death to America’ tweet
HANNAH LALGIE - UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA •SEPTEMBER 10, 2021


The University of Kansas student body president has no plans to apologize for sharing a “Death to America” tweet.


McAdoo has continued to defend her statements on Twitter.

“It’s very telling that more people are concerned with a re-tweet opinion and not the actual racial and sexual violence that has happened in student senate and on KU campus,” McAdoo wrote. “Where is the outrage for Black and Brown folks? Where is the outrage for sexual assault survivors?”


“Please know that it is death to an America that was built on Indigenous genocide and the backs of Black slaves,” she said in response to a tweet from conservative commentator Todd Starnes. “If you’re worried about people in the service of the military, be mad at your government because my words shouldn’t make you this mad.”




edit on 12-9-2021 by infolurker because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 10:09 AM
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I'd ask "what do we do about it?" but the answer is a long one.

The answer is easy. We just use their logic and the answer becomes obvious.

Mandate them, and eradicate the ones who fail to comply.



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: beyondknowledge

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: network dude



I'd ask "what do we do about it?" but the answer is a long one.

Offer all progressive liberals a vacation on Mars.(one way and they have to furnish their own way back)
About 80% would be overjoyed.

Situation resolved .


Why would you want to mess up the only other reachable planet that present day humans might be able to make livable? Send them to the Sun, the level of contamination will be much less that way.

Better than completely messing up the one we live on now.



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: network dude


I'd ask "what do we do about it?" but the answer is a long one.

The answer is easy. We just use their logic and the answer becomes obvious.

Mandate them, and eradicate the ones who fail to comply.



but then we become them, and they win.



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: network dude


I'd ask "what do we do about it?" but the answer is a long one.

The answer is easy. We just use their logic and the answer becomes obvious.

Mandate them, and eradicate the ones who fail to comply.



but then we become them, and they win.

Exactly, and this is why it's hard for those who maintain a conscience and a love of freedom to win against them. We aren't willing to stoop to their level or go to war with them until we are pushed into a corner with no recourse.

They have no such quandary, and it's why we will lose in the end.



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: network dude
www.pewresearch.org...

Socialism’s critics say it weakens work ethic; those with positive views say it fosters equality
For many Americans, “socialism” is a word that evokes a weakened work ethic, stifled innovation and excessive reliance on the government. For others, it represents a fairer, more generous society.

Critics of socialism point to Venezuela as an example of a country where it has failed. People with positive views of socialism cite different countries, such as Finland and Denmark, as places where it has succeeded.


55% against, and 42% are FOR socialism.

As I was thinking of how on earth any American could get behind forced vaccinations, I was reminded of this factoid. Now anyone who is worth their salt as a historian, knows at least that Socialism doesn't work. It's fantastic in theory, but when you factor in greed, the maths don't work anymore.

But where did this come from? It didn't just spring up, it's been hammered into the "highly educated" from those wonderful schools of higher learning. And today we have the results of that little experiment. 42% If there ever was an even to personify SMMFH, this is it.

I'd ask "what do we do about it?" but the answer is a long one.


Just for clarity because I know many of you haven’t even bother looking and what Democratic Socialism is:


Democratic socialism, Sanders said, is not tied to any Marxist belief or the abolition of capitalism. “I don’t believe government should own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a fair deal,” he said.

Source: time.com...

I’m a leftist and Bernie Sanders particular brand of Democratic Socialism doesn’t resonate with me. I’ve been called “brainwashed traditional capitalist” by others much more younger progressives.

The way younger progressives see the country and the economy is much more different than I do. Many of them had parents lose houses during 2008 crisis, they were kids at the time. They saw marriages been undone, parents go literally crazy. Many of them abhor this form of extreme capitalism that we currently live in. They think of a country that needs to be balanced, an Europe type democracy society which have very strong social safety nets and labor laws.

Hopefully this gives some insight.

edit on 12-9-2021 by Bunch because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 11:20 AM
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To be honest while I cant stand socialism or communism we are seeing what capitalism does in the end.

Sonner or later someone or a small group of people get it all . And here we are


edit on 12-9-2021 by sciencelol because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 11:25 AM
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The real genius is the guy who convinced some people that vaccination is a left-right issue. Now THAT'S what I call PsyOps.



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 11:27 AM
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You support the claim of "unopposed institutional socialism" with two anecdotes about individual outliers who have been opposed.

Did you honestly not see that?



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: network dude
www.pewresearch.org...

Socialism’s critics say it weakens work ethic; those with positive views say it fosters equality
For many Americans, “socialism” is a word that evokes a weakened work ethic, stifled innovation and excessive reliance on the government. For others, it represents a fairer, more generous society.

Critics of socialism point to Venezuela as an example of a country where it has failed. People with positive views of socialism cite different countries, such as Finland and Denmark, as places where it has succeeded.


55% against, and 42% are FOR socialism.

As I was thinking of how on earth any American could get behind forced vaccinations, I was reminded of this factoid. Now anyone who is worth their salt as a historian, knows at least that Socialism doesn't work. It's fantastic in theory, but when you factor in greed, the maths don't work anymore.

But where did this come from? It didn't just spring up, it's been hammered into the "highly educated" from those wonderful schools of higher learning. And today we have the results of that little experiment. 42% If there ever was an even to personify SMMFH, this is it.

I'd ask "what do we do about it?" but the answer is a long one.


I'm really surprised that no one keyed on this, because when I first read the quote I thought that it was the psyop, not the OPs narrative that followed. Look at how it's worded. It pits those who are against socialism as negative, but those with more positive views as equality fosterers. Kumbaya.

Seriously, read it again. All the words associated with critics are negative, those associated with pro-socialists ideals are regarded positive. That's your psyop right there....



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: sciencelol
To be honest while I cant stand socialism or communism we are seeing what capitalism does in the end.

Sonner or later someone or a small group of people get it all . And here we are



Kinda seems it goes that way either way.

Clearly, human greed must be taken seriously by any scheme of govt. Socialism ignores it, capitalism leverages it.



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 12:04 PM
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Every repuppetcan seems to forget this pandemic happened under Trumps watch. The first one in 100 years. People knew he was bad news, they just didn't know how bad. They kept saying his administration was the Trump Pence (Trumpets) of the bible. I mean, they were more right than they thought haha now there is only hatred & lockdowns left.



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 12:05 PM
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The trick almost always resides in weaponization of peoples ideals.

What is "socialism" anyway?

Well, to the people who currently reject it.. its "bad things." To the people who currently support it, it is "good things." This goes for pretty much every hot topic out there, from antifa to technology itself.

The question, as always, is "what is actually being implemented and what are the real world results?"

Hypothetically, if we somehow created a system that was literal perfection and would yield nothing less than a genuine, unquestionable utopia.. but called it "socialism.." would some people still be against it simply because it was called "socialism?" 100%, no question whatsoever.

Again hypothetically, if we did exactly the same thing and called it "capitalism.." would some people still be against it simply because it was called "capitalism?" 100%, no question whatsoever.


originally posted by: Klassified
Exactly, and this is why it's hard for those who maintain a conscience and a love of freedom to win against them. We aren't willing to stoop to their level or go to war with them until we are pushed into a corner with no recourse.

They have no such quandary, and it's why we will lose in the end.


Technically true when only examining it through ye olde paradigmes.

However, it becomes exceptionally difficult to push a population into a corner when they are self-sufficient.

This grows in direct proportion to the level of self-sufficiency and exponentially in relation to the level of coordinated decentralization.


originally posted by: sciencelol
To be honest while I cant stand socialism or communism we are seeing what capitalism does in the end.

Sonner or later someone or a small group of people get it all . And here we are



Oh yeah, capitalism is just as susceptible to the eventuality of the Iron Law of Oligarchy as nearly any other system. It appears to take longer though, which is probably relevant.



posted on Sep, 12 2021 @ 12:19 PM
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Unfortunately all systems lead to the same place; a small aristocracy living lives of opulence off the back of the masses who serve as cattle to the system. Every system of government and economy that have been developed, have been developed to stop the development of an aristocracy, but every single one of them have only succeeded in changing the titles of the aristocracy. From nobility, to clergy, to party heads, corporate CEOs, academic intellectuals. There will always be an aristocratic class, until human nature and the way humans do things truly change.




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