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Ethics and I cannot believe I have to say this

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posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: DBCowboy

I will live by my ethics as well. I won't lie, cheat, or steal for my personal gain. I will live honestly as well. I just wanted to make the point that medical ethics are being severely pressured right now.


They are, and it's a damned shame to be a part of a community that would do that.



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I survived it and I'm a chain-smoking fat bastard that drinks too much.


Life is too short to not have vices.

And you obviously know I support your stance on this being we're allegedly the same person.


Did you write this or did I?



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
Did you write this or did I?


Yes.



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I see nothing honorable in what the government is doing...NOTHING!

I see exactly zero reasons why I should be any more honorable than they are, which is zero!

They lie with every word out of their mouth. They NEVER tell the truth! Why should I?

They lied about the elections, they lied about covid, they lied about Afghanistan and they've lied about every thing else.

They are the most dishonorable administration in the history of this once great nation!

They are beneath dishonorable

Remember..."By any means possible!" (??)...Yeah, well that's a 2-way street, SUCKAH's!!

I say...GET OVER, ANY WAY YOU POSSIBLY CAN! SCREW THEM!!!




posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:24 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Serious questioon

If a patient really does not want to take the vax but is being forced then wouldnt his Dr. giving him saline and saying he took it be the most ethical thing a Dr could do ?
edit on 10-9-2021 by sciencelol because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I cannot, I will not compromise my medical ethics.

I've lived by them in the military and in the civilian world.

This is my hill.



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:26 PM
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originally posted by: sciencelol
a reply to: DBCowboy

Serious questioon

If a patient really does not want to take the vax but is being forced then wouldnt his Dr. giving him saline and saying he took it be the most ethical thing a Dr could do ?


No. A doctor risks losing his license by doing so. Any medical professional would lose their credentials by doing so.



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:27 PM
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I'll be blunt. I'm not so much worried about myself, and I'll play fair for me. But I have a son, and I'll do whatever I feel is necessary to safeguard him. Maybe that's the mom instinct in me.



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Fine...die on it, as if you had a choice!

I'm fighting for a much bigger and more strategic hill!

Here's the reality of it, the bottom line...you've already had the 'vax'...you have NO other choice BUT to die on that hill!

After all, you can't be UN-VAXXED, now can you?



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:29 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: sciencelol
a reply to: DBCowboy

Serious questioon

If a patient really does not want to take the vax but is being forced then wouldnt his Dr. giving him saline and saying he took it be the most ethical thing a Dr could do ?


No. A doctor risks losing his license by doing so. Any medical professional would lose their credentials by doing so.



Licensed and credentials is not ethics far from it.

What is medical ethics? My thinking it is the best possible care for your patients no matter what the system says.

And if you have a patient that you think will have a serious reaction to the vax and you still give it to him and not saline then you are a very unethical POS
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posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: DBCowboy

Fine...die on it, as if you had a choice!

I'm fighting for a much bigger and more strategic hill!

Here's the reality of it, the bottom line...you've already had the 'vax'...you have NO other choice BUT to die on that hill!

After all, you can't be UN-VAXXED, now can you?



Nope, still unvaxxed.



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: sciencelol

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: sciencelol
a reply to: DBCowboy

Serious questioon

If a patient really does not want to take the vax but is being forced then wouldnt his Dr. giving him saline and saying he took it be the most ethical thing a Dr could do ?


No. A doctor risks losing his license by doing so. Any medical professional would lose their credentials by doing so.



Licensed and credentials is not ethics far from it.

What is medical ethics? My thinking it is the best possible care for your patients no matter what the system says.


I see your point.

It is valid, but I cannot lie.

It's just not in me to do so.



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
I'll be blunt. I'm not so much worried about myself, and I'll play fair for me. But I have a son, and I'll do whatever I feel is necessary to safeguard him. Maybe that's the mom instinct in me.


You do whatever you have to do to protect you and yours.

I just have a line in the sand that I can't ethically move from.



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: sciencelol

I'd never give anyone the vax or support giving someone the vax who did not want it.



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

You edited your OP!

it said 'vaccinated' at first, now it reads 'un-vaccinated'.

Either way, don't care. Sack kicking is considered unfair and dishonorable in a fight, and I would sack-kick every single one of these lying degenerates so hard they'd be pulling their goodies out of their tonsils!

In a war, you fight to WIN...screw everything else!



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

That's fine, and I actually respect your posture.

I don't share your same views for the reasons I have stated.

There is no honor left in our leadership, the ones who leave "AMERICAN'S" LAST!

Why should I respect them with honor??? They have none, so neither will I.

Screw 'em!!



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: sciencelol

I'd never give anyone the vax or support giving someone the vax who did not want it.


But you would not give them saline and send them on their way either which you have made clear.

So then in a roundabout way you are actually supporting mandates.

Sry thats just the way I see it.



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:41 PM
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Deleted, missed page 2. Member already posted.





edit on 9 10 2021 by NorthOfStuff because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I edited my OP to place a "you" in the OP not to say unvaxed.



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 06:50 PM
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originally posted by: sciencelol

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: sciencelol

I'd never give anyone the vax or support giving someone the vax who did not want it.


But you would not give them saline and send them on their way either which you have made clear.



No.

I wouldn't.




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