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Why is there a difference between Cuban asylum seekers and others?

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posted on Jul, 19 2021 @ 07:14 AM
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It was said by the White House that Cubans seeking to come to the US would be turned away. But anyone else from south of the border is welcome to come and stay with us. As far as I know, Cubans are brown skinned, and seem to fit the bill when looked at as an oppressed people trying to flee from an oppressive regime. Let me check into what an asylum seeker needs to have going for them,......


Every year people come to the United States seeking protection because they have suffered persecution or fear that they will suffer persecution due to:

Race
Religion
Nationality
Membership in a particular social group
Political opinion
If you are eligible for asylum you may be permitted to remain in the United States. To apply for asylum, file a Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal, within one year of your arrival to the United States. There is no fee to apply for asylum.


well, that seems to fit this particular situation, so why the changing of the rules? Could it have anything to do with voting preferences? That would be shallow on a 'don't die over here, do it in your own yard' kind of way.

I can hear the faint words, "we don't like yer kind 'round here boy"
edit on 19-7-2021 by network dude because: Beto, what a stupid name.



posted on Jul, 19 2021 @ 07:17 AM
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Could it have anything to do with voting preferences?

Other than the Biden Administration wants to prop up a socialist regime.... the voting thing is the only thing I can see behind it.



posted on Jul, 19 2021 @ 07:22 AM
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The shift in policy toward Cuban immigrants began under President Barack Obama — who ushered in an historic warming of relations with the Cuban government — and has continued under President Trump, who has taken a harder line on the communist island and on immigration. Trump has not only made deportation of more immigrants in the U.S. illegally a priority, he has also limited visas for Cubans.

Obama announced that the U.S. would restore diplomatic relations with Cuba in 2014. Several years later, Obama ended the so-called "wet-foot, dry-foot" policy that allowed Cuban nationals to stay in the U.S., even if they arrived illegally by boat, so long as they stepped one foot on solid ground. Boaters intercepted at sea were sent back to the island.

The Obama administration ended the policy, partly because the Cuban government had agreed to facilitate repatriations of Cuban nationals. Previously, the Cuban government wouldn't accept most of its own nationals facing deportation from the U.S. Source





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posted on Jul, 19 2021 @ 07:36 AM
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You're a bit off. The policy is that Cuban and Haitian migrants would be given refugee status if they arrive by sea. This has been the policy for decades and seeks to discourage refugees from using the dangerous maritime route into the US.

Generally, migrants attempting to enter the US are intercepted by the Coast Guard and brought to Guantanamo Bay. They are then held there until a third-country is able to take them.

Looking at the numbers, the policy does seem to be effective at dissuading migrants from arriving by sea. Vastly more Cuban and Haitian migrants seek entry at the Mexican border.

So there is a legitimate reason why this policy has remained in place for decades. The morality of it though is in a bit of a grey area.



posted on Jul, 19 2021 @ 11:53 AM
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Boatloads of mexicans have been coming in by sea for decades. Not once have we seem democrats come out and tell them not to.



posted on Jul, 19 2021 @ 12:01 PM
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Remember how democrats try to claim that they democrats switched with republicans as soon as you mention that the democrats created and financed the KKK ?

Well we have the same sort of tactic here.

"Nervous Socialists Begin Saying Cuba Isn't Real Socialism"


Much like how they now try to claim that Republicans are the ones who want and are defunding the police all of a sudden.



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posted on Jul, 19 2021 @ 12:02 PM
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What's to stop undocumented people claiming they're from one country or another without proof ??

Bet deep state u.s. gov inside agencies have secret bargains with Cuba and other govs 😃

It's all a ruse 😃😃



posted on Jul, 19 2021 @ 01:10 PM
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The problem is the difference between a Refugee/ Asylum seeker and a Migrant/ economic Migrant. The vast majority ARE Economic Migrants, whether Cuban or Central American, and as such they have no legal basis for Asylum. So they lie. Now to sort them out, that is the problem.



posted on Jul, 19 2021 @ 02:00 PM
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Cubans will vote conservative because they understand the horrors of the government they are escaping.

That’s why they are not wanted by our current administration.



posted on Jul, 19 2021 @ 02:10 PM
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From wikipedia:

The wet feet, dry feet policy or wet foot, dry foot policy was the name given to a former interpretation of the 1995 revision of the application of the Cuban Adjustment Act of 1966 that essentially says that anyone who emigrated from Cuba and entered the United States would be allowed to pursue residency a year later. Prior to 1995, the U.S. government allowed all Cubans who reached U.S. territorial waters to remain in the U.S. After talks with the Cuban government, the Clinton administration came to an agreement with Cuba that it would stop admitting people intercepted in U.S. waters. For two decades thereafter, any Cuban caught on the waters between the two nations (with "wet feet") would summarily be returned to Cuba or sent to a third country, while one who made it to shore ("dry feet") got a chance to remain in the United States, and later would qualify for expedited "legal permanent resident" status in accordance with the 1966 Act and eventually U.S. citizenship. On January 12, 2017, Barack Obama announced the immediate end of the policy.[1][2]

The whole Elian Gonzales crisis during the Clinton admin was a blackeye. Then Obama ended the asylum policy. They tend to vote Republican.



posted on Jul, 19 2021 @ 04:34 PM
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Yeah, man...the hypocrisy surrounding this issue is mind-numbingly astounding.

Now, I'm all for advocating for a people to effect change from within, but it's becoming blatantly obvious that such an ability does not at all exist in Cuba because it is the government that is the source of the persecution and silencing and censorship and brutality and inhumane treatment of its people.

If there is a neighbor from whom we should be promoting asylum, I would think that it would be Cuba.

ETA: If you want to get a sense of what it is like for a Cuban to see the prosperity of America for the first time, check this video out and the rest of their channel. There are also other good ones where he is taken to Home Depot and Costco for the first times, too. These videos actually get my eyes tearing up, knowing that there are entire countries who don't know what such abundance and freedoms are like.


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posted on Jul, 20 2021 @ 04:52 AM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

Wow. That is powerful to see.



posted on Jul, 20 2021 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: everyone

I'm telling you...left me with tears.



posted on Jul, 21 2021 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

Yeah i know what you mean;. I may have not have actual tears rolling down from my eyes but i admit that this made me emotional, Enough to make my eyes wet. It truly made a impression.



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