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originally posted by: ltdan08
I just recently re-classed into a flight medic position in the National Guard. A few months ago, we were flying back to our base at night, under NVGs. I forget how it came up, but all five of us in the helicopter admitted that we had separately witnessed our own UAP. Most of them had seen them from the helicopter, at night. I get the feeling that if you fly enough at night, you're bound to see something inexplicable. I agree with your assertion that these sightings are greatly underreported.
originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Never quite figured out if he meant the UFOs being down here meant they are ours, or whether they are from beneath our feet..
“UFO: GEN. MARCELLETTI -- 100 PILOTS’ TESTIMONIES SILENCED
At least one hundred Italian pilots, some sixty soldiers and forty civilians, have been eyewitnesses in these years of UFO sightings but have been silenced by commands or flight directions with more threats or less veiled with retaliation. This was reported by General Salvatore Marcelletti, until 1972 a military pilot serving in the Italian air force and for the next twenty years driving civilian aircraft. .
Multiple pilots witness UFOs (and told to keep quiet):
..Two other American Airlines crews, flying in the vicinity, were alerted by radio. They saw the UFO's too.
Three United Air Lines planes were plying the airways in that sky neighborhood that night. They had no contact with Captain Killian or the other American Airlines crews. But they, too, saw and privately reported three UFO's.
All this might have come out in a public debate. But then, abruptly, Captain Killian stopped arguing. In a statement to NICAP, his wife said that American airlines had been instructed by the Air Force to muzzle him. As of mid-1964, he was still forbidden to say anything more in public about that strange night in 1959.
DOWN DOWN DOWN WITH CENSORSHIP
By Maj. Donald E. Keyhoe
At 38,000 feet last May he spotted a large object with a tube-like shape floating off his right wing. Doubting that any equipment we know could be pressureized and certificated to occupy that section of airspace, he deviated slightly from his air lane to take a closer look.
His co-pilot and flight engineer both observed it. It was dusk and he advised the passengers to look out the right window and take pictures if they had cameras.
His flight engineer took a Polaroid out of his flight bag and got three shots, slightly blurred, but obviously showing something red, hovering, with a projection or hump underneath it.
When they landed at the destination airport, the captain took the names of passengers who admitted seeing the object and collected a fourth roll of undeveloped film from one of them with a promise to return it. He then went to his dispatcher, wrote a report by hand of the circumstances and attached the film and the pictures to it.
He has never heard from his company.The dispatcher advised he turned everything over to the airline office that evening. The dispatcher was transferred to another city, and repeated calls to the airline are all answered with the denial that anyone has EVER received the report with pictures.
The captain was told that he could file another report and was advised that the airline had more than 150 UFO sighting reports on file and that he should "cool it."
This is the only surviving photo of the funnel-shaped flying object that paced the Fawcett Airlines DC-4 passenger liner in flight from Piura to Lima on February 2, 1967, at 06:30 P.M. The passengers were all held for interrogation by authorities after the plane landed.
Several of the passengers had taken photos of the strange craft alongside the airliner, but all cameras were taken and all film was confiscated..
Giant UFO terrorised passengers on DC4
like for example this document which states an incident that occured on a flight from Paris France to Madrid where a French photo journalist filmed a ufo during the flight and when he arrived to Madrid during his stay at the hotel he was confronted by spanish military high command and was asked to turn in the film under threat of deportation and arrest in which he had no other choice but to turn in the film which he had wih great reluctance.
Mass Sighting Over Spain In 1968
originally posted by: karl 12
And there used to be another account of UFO photographs being confiscated in this E-book but looks like the specific page isn't hosted anymore.
Australian Airliner Buzzed By Disc - Photos Confiscated
Control Tower/Pilot Tapes - UFO photographs confiscated?
Near Townsville, North Queensland, Australia, May 28, 1965
An Australian Ansett-A.N.A. airliner en route from Brisbane to Port Moresby in the early morning of May 28, 1965, was paced by a UFO and the pilot reportedly obtained photographs which were confiscated by the Australian government. Although the Department of Civil Aviation disclaims any knowledge of the incident, NICAP's informant, a public official in North Queensland, obtained the report directly from an aviation official involved in the sighting.
At about 3:25 a.m. on the morning of May 28, an Ansett--A.N.A. DC-6B (call sign VH-INH) was in the vicinity of Bougainville Reef. The pilot reported to the Townsville Ground Control Tower that he was being buzzed by a UFO - a flattened sphere with apparent exhaust gases coming from it. Other members of the crew also saw the UFO and the pilot took photographs of it. The object paced the aircraft for 10 to 15 minutes, then raced ahead of the aircraft at terrific speed and disappeared.
According to NICAP's informant, the pilot was instructed not to have the films developed in New Guinea. Instead he flew back to Brisbane and was flown from there to Canberra where the film was confiscated and the pilot instructed not to talk about the sighting. Tapes of the pilot's conversation with the control tower about the sighting were also confiscated.
NICAP Report - Section III - Vehicle Pacings and Encounters
originally posted by: karl 12 Regarding aviation encounters have always found the 'government cover up' aspect a really intriguing one and have had a good rummage around the files for some relevant examples.
originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
It doesn't seem to matter which country we look at they all have very similar 'government cover up' procedures, almost like they are all in it together, maybe taking orders from a higher source.
“I think that the Americans practice on the subject much higher efforts of investigation than those of any other country, they practice a deliberated policy and had deliberately orchestrated misinformation. It is total misinformation. What for? Is it the fear to see their supremacy challenged if one day they face a much more advanced external civilization? Is it their concern of keeping potential technological assets to themselves? Or . . . or any other explanation, who knows?”
GEIPAN Director Yves Sillard, former Assistant Secretary General for Environmental and Scientific Affairs for NATO
Speaking to elcomercio.pe, the director of the Difaa, Colonel Julio Vucetich, criticized those who mock the seriousness of the issue and stressed that the department may conduct joint with similar entities in other countries so that in Peru there was substantiated information.
In which countries in the region have similar departments?
For example, in Chile with the Committee for the Study of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena (CEFAA), the Study Commission of the UFO Phenomenon (Cefora) in Argentina, the Commission of Inquiry into Allegations Recipient and Unidentified Flying Objects (CRIDOVNI) of Uruguay. We're going interconnecting bilateral meetings to exchange information and have coordination meetings. The most advanced are the Europeans, France, Italy and Spain.
originally posted by: Alien Abduct
The B52 crew was some of the people that actually reported the UFO....sheesh. The thing is they can pretty much say anything, it doesn't matter because the masses will eat it up and they know it.
"As a result of several trips to project Bluebook,I´ve had an opportunity to examine quite carefully and in detail the types of reports that are made by Bluebook personnel.In most cases, I have found that theres almost no correlation between so-called "evaluations and explanations" that are made by Bluebook and the facts of the case."
Science In Default: 22 Years Of Inadequate UFO Investigations
Newsclipping 1 / 2
However he describes seeing gun camera film of UFOs taken by RAF fighter pilots in 1956 that was shown at a secret screening for air defence staff in 1970.
A search of the archives in 1993-94 found no trace of these films.
Missing Gun Camera UFO Footage?
originally posted by: wobbs62
this sighting was bsw, before swamp gas. 😆
Pilots Witness Two UFOs separate and One USO Submerge
December 22, 1977.
"Now comes, the wacky part of the whole thing. While we were watching the UFO, suddenly this other glowing thing drops out from underneath it. The damned thing drops out from underneath it. The damned thing looked a neon-green smoke ring. It dropped away from the larger UFO down toward the water … and submerged! We saw the glowing green circle of water where it went in, and then the glow disappeared!
“Seconds later, two more green rings dropped out. The second one dropped away and submerged like the first one, but the third one dropped down and then shot straight ahead to disappear toward the coast".
originally posted by: ApacheMonk
I know a 24 year career commercial pilot who flies for a major the word in the halls is if you value your line then you stay quiet on the coms about the things you see.
Passenger Plane Sightings
Statistics show that across the world UFO sightings occur at a rate of around one every two or three minutes. Not surprising then that pilots of commercial airliners should be high on the list of people to have most witnessed them. It is a fact that ever since the beginning of flight and commercial aviation strange craft or disk shaped objects have proved the bafflement of many a professional pilot. In many cases the sightings have been witnessed by the entire crew and passengers - literally hundreds of separate witnesses to each individual incident.
In the early days of commercial aviation these sightings proved something of a novelty. Pilots and air crew were happy to recount their experiences to any one who would listen. Gradually however this openness began to disappear. Airlines became increasingly sensitive to these issues, some even going as far as to prohibit their pilots from talking publicly of their sightings.
Reported E-M effects included radio interference or total failure, radar contact with and without simultaneous visual contact, magnetic and/or gyro-compass deviations, automatic direction finder failure or interference, engine stopping or interruption, dimming cabin lights, transponder failure, and military aircraft weapon system failure.
A radar/visual UFO sighting was reported on the night of June 8 from two airplanes: a private Cessna 210 carrying three passengers, and a Paraguayan Air Lines flight from Asunción to Miami. Air traffic control at Asunción's airport detected an unknown radar track and also saw an object hovering over a runway.
An official document from the Civil Aeronautical Agency of the Ministry of Defense confirms the radar detection. The Cessna's automatic direction finder (ADF) malfunctioned during the sighting. Pilot César Escobar reported:
"During close approaches, the Cessna instruments 'went crazy'... The (ADF) was moving around indiscriminately, without any sense of direction. When the light moved a little farther away, everything returned to normal. It repeated this 'game' several times. It seemed to be under intelligent control."