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Why should I be loyal to my country?

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posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:36 AM
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Ok....... first of all for those that are patriots of whatever country they are from I am not critising you. But why should I be?

Big question I have been asking myself in recent months due to how miserable my governments made me the past year.

Why does being born in the UK mean I should be loyal?

Why do I owe my alligance to a family of rich elites or the corrupt bastard politicians that run the country?

The people who run this country or any western country from the UK, USA or Germany and everywhere don't give a # about us little people. They don't know or care we exist. Our country's would screw us over in a heart beat if it benefited the people in power.

The only people I feel I should be loyal too are myself and my family.




posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: DIEGLOKE2

At least you get to wait in line for free health care. I get to wait in line for a $3,000 bill.



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:39 AM
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Should we get a gofundme going for ya, maybe we can get you a ticket somewhere 3rd world.


I hear Africa is beautiful this time of year.

They care about the little people.


Heh

heuheeueheuehe.



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:39 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: DIEGLOKE2

At least you get to wait in line for free health care. I get to wait in line for a $3,000 bill.



Even our free healthcare sucks in the UK.

Trust me other country's with universal healthcare do it better, France for example.



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
Should we get a gofundme going for ya, maybe we can get you a ticket somewhere 3rd world.


I hear Africa is beautiful this time of year.

They care about the little people.


Heh

heuheeueheuehe.


That's not the point.

Every country sucks. So why should I be loyal to any of them.

I'd sell the UK out to Russia for the right price, then sell out Russia to the USA if a better deal came along.
At which point I will likely drink a polonium cocktail, but hey? I'd die rich.

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posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: DIEGLOKE2

At least you get to wait in line for free health care. I get to wait in line for a $3,000 bill.



9 month wait vs 45 min wait to see a specialist, hmmmm.

Either way, I got 5 bucks on this gofundme once its set up.





posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:42 AM
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nice roads and gardens? birds or chipmunks in forests? grass, winds and sometimes it snows and air smells nice?



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:42 AM
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a reply to: DIEGLOKE2

Not all countries suck equally.



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: Lysergic

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: DIEGLOKE2

At least you get to wait in line for free health care. I get to wait in line for a $3,000 bill.



9 month wait vs 45 min wait to see a specialist, hmmmm.

Either way, I got 5 bucks on this gofundme once its set up.




Tell you what.

Get me a ticket to Iceland



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: DIEGLOKE2

Iceland it is.

Lemme know where I can donate.
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posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: DIEGLOKE2

There's always Mars.


I won't lie.

I have considered Elon musks call for volunteers for his planned colony.
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posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:45 AM
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originally posted by: Lysergic

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: DIEGLOKE2

At least you get to wait in line for free health care. I get to wait in line for a $3,000 bill.



9 month wait vs 45 min wait to see a specialist, hmmmm.

Either way, I got 5 bucks on this gofundme once its set up.




I can wait 9 months if it saves me $3 G’s.




posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: DIEGLOKE2


what did you government to do you to make you miserable?



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: underwerks

Not if you got 8 months to live



oh man this emoji isn't smug enough.



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: DIEGLOKE2
Ok....... first of all for those that are patriots of whatever country they are from I am not critising you. But why should I be? ...


I think that ultimately - even for those self-avowed "patriots" - it's a matter of self-interest.

There is safety in numbers. And there is something to be said for maintaining some kind of status quo that lends to economic and social stability. If jumping on the bandwagon of patriotism is a means for maintaining that status quo and a person does not find it too offensive, it serves one's purpose.

Now, there does come a point when riding on the patriotism bandwagon becomes counterproductive. Sadly, there are many, many people (perhaps the majority of people) who stay on the bandwagon - perhaps even hold on more tightly in those cases.



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: DIEGLOKE2
Community is all I think and whoever is the biggest gang.
I just play that game.



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:50 AM
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I'd sell the UK out to Russia for the right price, then sell out Russia to the USA if a better deal came along.
At which point I will likely drink a polonium cocktail, but hey? I'd die rich.


It appears you are just living in the wrong country, my friend.

Judging by what you have posted so far, you are actually an American Democrat.

Come over here, settle in California or New York.

I guarantee you will fit right in.



To the OP, you may have not thought it exactly through.

Allegiance to country has nothing to do with its government.

It is allegiance to the ideas put forth in your founding documents... what your Country actually stands for.

Generally, those are two entirely different things.

Like the USA right now, for instance.



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: DIEGLOKE2

I'm with you.
Same question about national pride.

I am not proud to be an American. I am fortunate and I am happy but not proud. That is reserved for accomplishments.

It's just something I don't understand.

My country or government have a relationship based on rules and institutions I had no say in and did not agree to.

They do things and I pay taxes to fund those things. Many of those things I don't agree with but I find it anyway.

Welcome to the machine



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: DIEGLOKE2


what did you government to do you to make you miserable?


Ever try getting a non-EU wife into the UK?

I am British born and should be entitled as a right to live here with whoever I marry. I should not be forced into exile just because I married someone from Latin America.

Meanwhile our goverment freely hands out visa to everyone that gets of what ever raft they took from bongo bongo land.



posted on Sep, 14 2018 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Funny thing is what my country stands for is not really what they stand for.
I see it written
I hear it spoken

Not so much in the action department




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