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Unmasking Antifa Act of 2018

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posted on Jul, 14 2018 @ 06:51 AM
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originally posted by: trollz
Good, it's time we get these literal terrorists off the streets. Anyone who conceals their identity in an attempt to get away with physically attacking others for the sake of political agendas (or any reason, really) deserves to be in prison.

Terrorism - the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.


originally posted by: Aazadan
So you don't believe in a right to anonymity when practicing controversial speech?

Wow, that was pretty desperate.
Concealing your identity in an attempt to get away with physically attacking someone is completely different than using anonymity to practice free speech. You know it and so does everyone else.
Try harder.




posted on Jul, 14 2018 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: trollz

Why? If it's illegal to attack someone, why is doing it anonymously more illegal? Your comment sounded like you were against anonymity in general.



posted on Jul, 14 2018 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: Fools

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: toms54

I hope so too. If you want to protest, do it peacefully. Otherwise, go to jail. Something everyone can agree on.


Although I agree with that in general, would the United States even exist if our founders only protested peacefully?



Neither would the Soviet Union, and the Bolsheviks. It cuts both ways.



posted on Jul, 14 2018 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: trollz

Why? If it's illegal to attack someone, why is doing it anonymously more illegal? Your comment sounded like you were against anonymity in general.


Because we as a society need to make sure that we are able to uphold law and order. If we can't prosecute anyone for crimes simply because we have no way of knowing who they are, then we're doing something wrong. There does, of course, need to be a balance to the system - anonymity is perfectly fine and all, but if you're using it with the intention of committing a crime and evading the justice system, then you should face even harsher punishment for your actions... Kindof like if a cop pulls you over for drunk driving and you refuse to give him your ID in the hopes he won't be able to figure out who you are.

tl:dr;
Anonymity is good for free speech (or life in general).
Anonymity is bad when used to commit crimes.
People using anonymity to commit crimes are making their crimes more serious.
Physically attacking someone is a crime.
Physically attacking someone to stifle their legally-held political views is terrorism.



posted on Jul, 14 2018 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: network dude

As I said, I don't 100% agree with antifa's tactics. At the same time though we shouldn't really be surprised at their emergence. The past few decades have shown that all peaceful protest gets you is a boot on the back of your neck.

So now that people are standing up to such corruption the government wants everyone to play nice? Absolutely laughable.

I certainly don't want to see innocent people get hurt. But the government demanding peace when they've been responding with violence is hypocritical at best.

^^^
Best example of leftists mental gymnastics I've seen all week...

First you advocate violence than spend the next 3 pages trying to salvage your moral high ground.
Nice!



posted on Jul, 14 2018 @ 09:54 PM
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a reply to: trollz

We can't prosecute crimes when we know who people are as it is. That's why we pile on charges and create plea deals which obtan guilty verdicts without any proof.

Maybe we should get the courts running efficiently before we start adding more crimes for them to handle.



posted on Jul, 14 2018 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan


We can't prosecute crimes when we know who people are as it is. That's why we pile on charges and create plea deals which obtan guilty verdicts without any proof.


Unfortunately this is 100% true

The legal system was never meant to be like this



posted on Jul, 16 2018 @ 02:35 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Variable7

I guessed you missed posts by the person with current specific laws regarding violent acts wearing a mask. Nobody cares if people are peaceful protesting with masks on. The issue is with Antifa wearing masks to hide identities while committing intimidation, violence, and acts of vandalism.
so what you’re saying is some masked crimes are acceptable like the kkk antifas new and can’t have more than 1% of the vandalism, murder or intimidation the clan and/or neo nazis have if we’re picking and choosing which evil we want to see then be my guest.
The law is ignorant to the current climate all our house and senators have faceless donors. Faceless protest just makes since.

A lot of the violence is antagonized by law enforcement, city reps, counter protest etc etc



posted on Jul, 16 2018 @ 03:20 AM
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A rather short sighted view IMO. Doing something like making a law which is oppressive to the extent of this law, once, becomes easy to do a second and then successive times.

When you realise that one of the ways in which they keep society divided and controlled is to segment out of the population a target group whom they then demonise and vilify which usually has the affect of getting the popular support to enable the govt to pass laws which are supposed to apply only to that subgroup but which in fact when the law comes out actually applies to everyone.

These same people could quite easily segment out a section of the population for the above treatment which might include you depending on what your interests etc are.

here are some subgroups that have been processed in this way in my country.

Fixated persons
Bikies
street gangs
Fine evaders
Tax evaders
drug dealers
perverts







 
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