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posted on Jun, 13 2018 @ 01:47 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: knoxie

Nope:

Working peace with NK
Ending the Nuclear Deal with Iran
Making sure we never sign the Paris Climate Change agreement which would have saddled us with all the cost and none of the benefit.
Tax cuts
End of individual mandate
Cutting regulations
Increase in jobs and economic activity overall.

I'm not concerned about you at all, actually. Busy winning while you're busy whining.


End of the individual mandate means be a burden on society. Be a free loader. Rob your fellow citizen.

Excuse me while I throw up after being in your presence.




posted on Jun, 13 2018 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

You know I think what you're saying is fair somewhat. I want trump to do well but forgive me for being cynical and pessimistic when we have a freaking billionaire former playboy rich kid reality show star as our president, might as well be Charlie Manson in there. Obama for all his faults and there are many, at least kept the country and economy afloat, everyone thought we would be completely bankrupt communist Islamic Nation by now under him. I am quite sure the fears of a oligarchy Nazi racist white supremacist country under Trump Are wholly unfounded as well.



posted on Jun, 14 2018 @ 12:37 AM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: Irishhaf

You know I think what you're saying is fair somewhat. I want trump to do well but forgive me for being cynical and pessimistic when we have a freaking billionaire former playboy rich kid reality show star as our president, might as well be Charlie Manson in there. Obama for all his faults and there are many, at least kept the country and economy afloat, everyone thought we would be completely bankrupt communist Islamic Nation by now under him. I am quite sure the fears of a oligarchy Nazi racist white supremacist country under Trump Are wholly unfounded as well.


NO he didn't. He kept us in a long term recession. Perhaps better than a collapse you might say, but with his Cloward and Piven strategy, it was more like how can he put as much stress on the economy and still have people think he's doing a good job, such as how you seem to view it....long term recession was great for 8 years yah....we are fortunate we have someone in the Oval Office who loves our country and wants to see it succeed, not someone who wants to lower our status and standing and who hates the Constitution. The Lefty socialists of the day for some odd reason believe that they can create a better socialist State than the old Soviet Union, which fell because a centrally planned control of the means of production just doesn't work.



posted on Jun, 14 2018 @ 12:39 AM
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originally posted by: gariac

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: knoxie

Nope:

Working peace with NK
Ending the Nuclear Deal with Iran
Making sure we never sign the Paris Climate Change agreement which would have saddled us with all the cost and none of the benefit.
Tax cuts
End of individual mandate
Cutting regulations
Increase in jobs and economic activity overall.

I'm not concerned about you at all, actually. Busy winning while you're busy whining.


End of the individual mandate means be a burden on society. Be a free loader. Rob your fellow citizen.

Excuse me while I throw up after being in your presence.
You have it all backwards. You seem to believe that the taxpayers are responsible for paying other people's stuff, then you say that anyone who doesn't want to do that is a freeloader. You really don't understand economics. Or you just choose to believe the crazy ideology that Democratic Socialists of America who lead the Democrat Party today are pushing on us.



posted on Jun, 14 2018 @ 12:41 AM
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a reply to: gariac




End of the individual mandate means be a burden on society. Be a free loader. Rob your fellow citizen.



Sorry, but raising a trillion dollars in taxes and fines to pay for the health insurance of a small number of uninsured is not sound economics.




Excuse me while I throw up after being in your presence.





posted on Jun, 14 2018 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: knoxie




when trump was tweeting little rocket man crap was he doing a good job? did you feel safer?


What we may feel is not necessarily a true indication of what is actually happening. When all the media pundits and talking heads were freaking out ...Trump went on to bring NK to a process of making a deal.... it has yet to bear a fruit that ripens....however, it is very interesting to see how NK came to the table. While I do not trust NK, I sure think it's interesting what's going on. And we are clearly not on the bring of WWIII.



posted on Jun, 14 2018 @ 12:51 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Bluntone22

Because we invaded Iraq under false pretenses and the vast majority of the American people wanted him to..


I don’t think the vast majority of Americans wanted the president to blow Kim for free.


Well I for one didn't. I even told the Republican Party I was miffed at Prez Bush for taking us to war and was not going to give a donation. What you apparently do not understand is that the NWO has operatives on both the Republican and Democrat sides, and as the late Antony Sutton wrote, the NWO is neither left nor right, but a synthesis of the managed conflict of opposites.



posted on Jun, 14 2018 @ 04:14 AM
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a reply to: gariac

Nothing have really changed, except Trump ratcheted up a confrontation with the DKRP putting an entire region on edge, lucky that Kim's mountain of doom collapsed and that mede him more pliable, Trump then gave Kim a photo op, lotsa praise pomp and circumstance (things both Trump and Kim really likes), and little else but a promise to behave.
Trumps great thing so far is ratcheting down the tension he himself started some months back... They say they'll fixed things in followup negotiations.. Holding my breath.
Dad used to say a promise is a comfort to a fool..



posted on Jun, 14 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: seagull

So what does trump deserve credit for??? Lol

1) He gave a tax break to billionaires..


Anyone making under 100k a year didn’t get a tax break.. my boss is salary and makes 70k a year and got a 1.50$ raise every 2 weeks..




This is a lie. Literally everyone I know makes under 100k a year and every one of us got a tax break. My brother and his wife got quite a nice one. For my parents it was almost $100 a month, which is great for them. You've been lied to about the tax breaks for this long and still don't know the truth. Sad. Of course you're misinformed on this issue too. Wherever you're getting your info from lies to you, a lot.



posted on Jun, 14 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: Irishhaf

You know I think what you're saying is fair somewhat. I want trump to do well but forgive me for being cynical and pessimistic when we have a freaking billionaire former playboy rich kid reality show star as our president, might as well be Charlie Manson in there. Obama for all his faults and there are many, at least kept the country and economy afloat, everyone thought we would be completely bankrupt communist Islamic Nation by now under him. I am quite sure the fears of a oligarchy Nazi racist white supremacist country under Trump Are wholly unfounded as well.


NO he didn't. He kept us in a long term recession. Perhaps better than a collapse you might say, but with his Cloward and Piven strategy, it was more like how can he put as much stress on the economy and still have people think he's doing a good job, such as how you seem to view it....long term recession was great for 8 years yah....we are fortunate we have someone in the Oval Office who loves our country and wants to see it succeed, not someone who wants to lower our status and standing and who hates the Constitution. The Lefty socialists of the day for some odd reason believe that they can create a better socialist State than the old Soviet Union, which fell because a centrally planned control of the means of production just doesn't work.
The Obama years saw every working person I know watching their standard of living dropping ,especially after Obamacare shot our healthcare costs through the roof so the nonworking folks could have coverage at our expense.A year and a half of Trump and we are getting a nice bonus and raise at the company I work for and overtime is back,so far I`m on track to make a lot more and now I have some spending money in my pocket for non necessities.Now I have hope, not just a little change



posted on Jun, 14 2018 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: BlueJacket

The money belonged to iran already. It had been frozen for many years.

Obama unfroze it in exchange for weapons inspectors given access to iran.

Whoever told you that the american government payed iran from it's own pocket was lying to you.


By the way now that the iran deal is over , iran gets to keep their money and don't have to let inspectors in.



posted on Jun, 14 2018 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: ridgerunner
I am a working american.

My standard of living got better under obama and the aca has already literally saved my life.


But the thing is obama (aside from the aca) is not the reason my life got better. I am.

And no mater who those people you know want to blame they are the reason their life went down hill. Not the government and certainly not one man.



posted on Jun, 14 2018 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: face23785

It's true that the middle class got a small tax break but it's only for a few years.

The poor like myself saw no change but then again we don't pay much taxes anyway.

The rich got a big tax cut that will last forever.

I don't call that a win for the entire country.

But it's also not a loss.
Better than nothing though I hoped trump would do better for the middle class than this. Didn't you?



posted on Jun, 15 2018 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep Actually the company I work at is one of the best paying jobs in the area.When your insurance goes up ten times what it was and deductibles go from 300 to 1000 dollars that's a hit.When the auto industry is so flat and you lose the opportunity to work overtime like we could until 09,that hurts.Finding a second job when unemployment is high and you`re older than 50 is not easy.Mowing yards and doing tractor work helps,but the fact is the economy did not recover from the recession like normal because of bad economic policies.Redistribution of wealth mostly went to Democrat donors and welfare voters.I will give the Obama administration credit for cash for clunkers,that picked things up for about a year,till inventories caught up.And I blame Bush for starting it and Obama for prolonging the recession equally.Obamacare was well intended perhaps,but very poorly thought out,some people benefitted,but many suffered from it.As of the last few months,though,work has really picked up,the tax cuts put a few bucks in our pockets,but their real effect has been much more orders.And a bigger refund next year to look forward to.


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