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More guns = more gun deaths

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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:51 PM
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We here in the US have 42% of the worlds guns. We also have about 4X the amount of mass shootings (more than 4 people shot during the event). I am honestly aghast at the amount of people who refuse to recognize the correlation. Yes, there are probably other factors (pharmaceuticals, mental health, a culture of fear of "other"), but ignoring these statistics must obviously create some major cognitive dissonance among those of you who refuse to believe more guns equals more gun deaths.

I am sure many of you will stick by your fear that the government is coming for your guns and that its a constitutional freedom, but regardless... America's unhealthy obsession with firearms is a deadly one. The NRA spends millions upon millions of dollars propping up their purchased politicians and many of us buy their propaganda, otherwise... "they'll take away our freedom" ... I get it, I don't like the idea of losing freedoms either, but at what cost? a few hundred kids getting killed each year?

Here is an article which I bet has been argued over before, but shows clearly the correlation between the amount of guns in the US vs the amount of gun deaths.

www.vox.com...



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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:55 PM
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The government took our guns back in the old country, then they murdered 1.5 million of my people.
So what is it you are trying to say?
What ever it is, it is surely misinformed and unintelligent knee jerk political nonsense



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: Harpua

More people? More people deaths.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: visitedbythem
The government took our guns back in the old country, then they murdered 1.5 million of my people.
So what is it you are trying to say?
What ever it is, it is surely misinformed and unintelligent knee jerk political nonsense


Read the article and argue the stats if you like.

I don't like the idea of having to fight a government any more than you do, sounds like a losing proposition for both sides.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: Harpua

More people? More people deaths.



Lets get rid of people with more guns?

problem solved.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:01 PM
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Problem with these types of articles is they do not differentiate between suicide and killing people, and to me at least there is a world of difference between suicide and murder.

If we had decent mental health facilities in our country then the number would shrink significantly, but folks always want to focus on the inanimate object rather than the problems with our society where sick people have little options for getting help.

thats all I have for the moment.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: Harpua


More automobiles = More automobile deaths!!!!

BAN CARS!!!



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:01 PM
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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:01 PM
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originally posted by: Harpua

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: Harpua

More people? More people deaths.



Lets get rid of people with more guns?

problem solved.


Hold your breath...



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:02 PM
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Today’s shootings were again done by a person in ILLEGAL possession of a firearm. Firearms are not the problem...

...perhaps we should look at how we’re raising our children to avoid all conflict, run to safe spaces, not learn to interact civilly, to not logically think through problems...the list goes on...



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: Harpua

You people will never fix your gun problem

Because its a people problem... People obscessed with guns

Something you will never figure out apparently...

Blah blah take away our freedom... Meanwhile... The world watches a live episode of south park

Where the people of the country just can't figure out why

Give it up... You'll never fix it




posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
Problem with these types of articles is they do not differentiate between suicide and killing people, and to me at least there is a world of difference between suicide and murder.

If we had decent mental health facilities in our country then the number would shrink significantly, but folks always want to focus on the inanimate object rather than the problems with our society where sick people have little options for getting help.

thats all I have for the moment.


actually, they do subtract suicides from many of those statistics. Read the entire article.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: FHomerK
a reply to: Harpua


More automobiles = More automobile deaths!!!!

BAN CARS!!!


Close... actually, require seatbelts, require a license, require safety standards etc.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:08 PM
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So, looking around the internet, just for fun. We may have the most "multiple" shootings, but we seem to still not have as many deaths by guns, as some other countries. Honduras? Venezuela? A few others if you care to look.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:09 PM
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We here in the US have 42% of the worlds guns. We also have about 4X the amount of mass shootings (more than 4 people shot during the event). I am honestly aghast at the amount of people who refuse to recognize the correlation.

The most deaths by firearm occur in foreign countries the uS military is invading. The problem is not arms in the hands of citizens, its arms in the hands of the Gubment.

The US manufactures arms, ships them around the world more than any other country, using them to kill millions of people. Here at home the police are becoming more militarized too. They are killing more citizens in this country. Their biggest fear is armed americans defending themselves from the Police State and the Military.

The cry to disarm is a a cry to disarm Americans, putting all the guns in the hands of Authorities.
Welcome to the New Word Order, the New Police State.

I actually just finished watching this. Trailer...



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: Lab4Us
Today’s shootings were again done by a person in ILLEGAL possession of a firearm. Firearms are not the problem...

...perhaps we should look at how we’re raising our children to avoid all conflict, run to safe spaces, not learn to interact civilly, to not logically think through problems...the list goes on...


I only partially agree with you. We for sure do have some imbedded cultural issues that clearly are causing an increase in murderous tendencies. We also have more guns than any other nation and extremely lax laws surrounding them.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:13 PM
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Too bad for VOX and you!


Steven Crowder already destroyed Vox's propaganda hit piece!


Meh, can't get the imbed to work...

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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:16 PM
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Problem is when you look at an actual breakdown of gun violence, take out suicide, take out legal police shootings, take out gang on gang violence.

Our numbers are not that different than any other developed nation, when folks go on about we have to ban "military style assault weapons" they never actually look at the number of victims from an AR or SKS platform, that is like 300 a year roughly.

When what we should be doing is fixing our mental health problem, fixing our broken family units, fixing things that might actually make a difference rather than focusing on laws that will not stop a psycho from getting a gun and killing people.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:19 PM
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gun rights vs victims of guns rights

the victims are pretty much screwed.

Sorry about your 15 year old daughter, she should have been carrying a loaded pistol to class.

Its insane.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:20 PM
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a reply to: Harpua
More cars, more car deaths
More sugar, more diabetes deaths
Your argument makes as much statistical sense as my statements.
It’s a mental health issue or religious issue, not a gun issue as they have convinced you it is.




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