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Who has the authority? (regarding private corporations)

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posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 06:16 PM
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Who exactly has the authority to funnel our tax money into creating opportunities for American citizens?

For example, who would have the authority to actually promote regulations and tax incentives to encourage private corporations to act in the public interest and somehow outlaw destructive activities such as exporting American jobs to low wage countries?

Who would have that authority to hold private business's and corporations more accountable to the American citizen?

Thank you




posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 06:34 PM
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With all due respect!

You just got sucked into the swamp.

Edit:

jm2cts: Laws above blue collar crimes are being told to us.. or hide ... or .. or...or/..
There is NON! There is a system maintained for the masses!
Sometimes one has to be saved from that system either due heritage, heir or inside credibility.

Disclamer: This is the most positive explanation.,.,. it's goes down the drain from there on.

edit on 13-2-2018 by EartOccupant because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 06:37 PM
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a reply to: Gumerk

uhhh what?

🔱👁



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Does a state charter actually create the corporation? What about responsible conduct and moral considerations? If a corporation can move its operations and produce goods on the cheap all while taking away American jobs then who actually has the authority to step in and say no and ensure that the American corporation stays here in America providing jobs?

Why hasn't our government done something already that would best serve the American people in this regard and who actually has that authority?

I mean, we still have prohibition of cannabis for example that they say is there to protect us from ourselves but wouldn't the availability of a decent job be much more protective to the American citizen?
edit on 13-2-2018 by Gumerk because: clarification



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 07:05 PM
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originally posted by: Gumerk
Who exactly has the authority to funnel our tax money into creating opportunities for American citizens?

For example, who would have the authority to actually promote regulations and tax incentives to encourage private corporations to act in the public interest and somehow outlaw destructive activities such as exporting American jobs to low wage countries?

Who would have that authority to hold private business's and corporations more accountable to the American citizen?

Thank you



You answered yourself. The corporations themselves. Why else be "private"...and the parts of government who has a hand in them...or pockets filled with $$$ by them.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 07:06 PM
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Another example is here in America we have measures including zoning ordinances, architectural standards, safety standards, health codes, minimum wage laws, and the whole array of regulations which have as their expressed aim the **improvement of society.**

But how does and to what extent does American society get improved with corporations taking their business outside the country to make maximum profits?
edit on 13-2-2018 by Gumerk because: clarification



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 07:20 PM
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But how does and to what extent does American society get improved with corporations taking their business outside the country to make maximum profit?


Do you know what a Corporate Oligarchy is?

"trickle down economy"



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 07:34 PM
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John Meloncamp?
This one?



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:09 PM
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Governments are 'supposed' to be representatives of 'We The People' and protect our rights but surely corporations and businesses are not our representatives and we are not their priority.

Why would the decisions of centralized government who is 'supposed' to be working for us do more harm than individual businessmen exercising their judgement in a free economy?



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: Gumerk
Another example is here in America we have measures including zoning ordinances, architectural standards, safety standards, health codes, minimum wage laws, and the whole array of regulations which have as their expressed aim the **improvement of society.**

But how does and to what extent does American society get improved with corporations taking their business outside the country to make maximum profits?


Corporations have shareholders (owners). The shareholders can be one person or tens of thousands of people. The corporation does what is right for the shareholders first. Generally speaking, shareholders want the corporation to be as profitable as possible. The shareholders invest in a corporation expecting their investment to gain value.

Shareholders can be anyone from a single individual with a few shares to an institutional investor like a pension fund or university endowment owning millions of shares.

Because so many people are invested in corporations, society does better when the companies are profitable. Simply put, Grandma's pension can't pay her retirement if the money invested is not getting a good return. The millions of people with 401ks have a vested interest in corporations doing well as their retirement depends on it.

Corporations often decide to move a plant overseas mainly because doing so lowers their cost of doing business. This is important in a competitive environment. When consumers are shopping for the lowest price, the only way a company can provide it is to lower their cost basis. Often times, the easiest way to do that is using cheaper overseas labor.

There really is no moral imperative for business just as consumers generally have no moral imperative to spend more than necessary.

You benefit from having lower cost of goods and services. Think about all the products and services you enjoy cheaply because of corporations / businesses seeking a profit. Profit is not bad.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:55 PM
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This is pretty simple...
I get a CPA to set me up a corporation TexasTruth Inc., and I sell T-shirts based off of a website I create (this is a hypothetical by the way). I'm buying shirts from the red white and blue American place. But! China will send me the same shirt at half the price.
I have a choice here! Double my profits or stick with American.
I get big! Bigglier! I say at this point screw RW&B company and get my shirts from China so I can buy tv commercial, have famous people model my shirt, and hire more marketing/shipping people. But RW&B starts going under, because my competetors are going elsewhere to compete with me.
At what point do YOU want the government to come in and say "NO"! You buy American made or we squash you?? Capitalism can be ugly, but it's better than the alternative.
You have a point, but there is no easy answer.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:55 PM
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edit on 13-2-2018 by TexasTruth because: My 1st double post! Yay



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: Gumerk

Sure sounds like you want the government and/or by extension the courts to make a company guarantee you a high paying job. Is that you Kaepernick?



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: TexasTruth
This is pretty simple...
I get a CPA to set me up a corporation TexasTruth Inc., and I sell T-shirts based off of a website I create (this is a hypothetical by the way). I'm buying shirts from the red white and blue American place. But! China will send me the same shirt at half the price.
I have a choice here! Double my profits or stick with American.
I get big! Bigglier! I say at this point screw RW&B company and get my shirts from China so I can buy tv commercial, have famous people model my shirt, and hire more marketing/shipping people. But RW&B starts going under, because my competetors are going elsewhere to compete with me.
At what point do YOU want the government to come in and say "NO"! You buy American made or we squash you?? Capitalism can be ugly, but it's better than the alternative.
You have a point, but there is no easy answer.


That is exactly what happens, but not only that... the CONSUMER doesn't give two sh*ts that you are buying you are supporting the RW&B place! They rather pay $10 for shirt instead of $15.

The consumer is also not so innocent. It is greed for a corporation to want to maximize profit, but it is also greed that a consumer wants the lowest cost. Everyone is complicit.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: Gumerk



Who exactly has the authority to funnel our tax money into creating opportunities for American citizens?

Generally it's elected officials or the people they authorize through contracts and/or legislation that do. But it depends on which "tax money" and "opportunities" you're talking about. For example, city councils and/or mayors are generally in charge of city taxes they've collected. But you'd have to look at specific laws and departments to know for sure, since fees collected by a dept may be designated to go to certain things (like how certain park fees may go to maintenance of parks or certain gas taxes may go to fund road maintenance).



who would have the authority to actually promote regulations and tax incentives

Anyone can "promote" them, but lawmakers/legislators are the ones who write the laws regarding them. By lawmakers/legislators, I mean city councils, county boards, State legislatures, and the federal Congress. Each level of govt has different jurisdictions though, and usually the higher the level you get, the more power that group of lawmakers/legislators has.

So usually a county board can override a city (though not always), the State can override the county & city, and the federal/Congress can override the States, counties, and cities. But the last one is tricky because the US Constitution also limits the power of Congress when regulating the States, which leads to a lot of small power struggles to determine who exactly has the authority in specific cases.

And of course, court decisions can also have the power of law. And courts can override legislative decisions, depending on their jurisdiction.


and somehow outlaw destructive activities such as exporting American jobs to low wage countries

This one's tricky. Unusually, when you're talking about international commerce, you're talking about the federal level. But there are a lot of laws on the books that allow extensive business opportunities abroad. To be blunt, our most powerful institutions crave international trade so they've made it easy for us to do business outside of our borders.

Think about it like this: when you buy something from eBay or Amazon.com, you can choose products from sellers all around the world. But why? When you buy an electronics product, it may be built anywhere from Mexico to South Korea. But why? Do you like foreign grown or produced foods, foreign movies/anime/comedies, or watching soccer games from non-American sports leagues? Why do you think we're allowed to enjoy these products when they're not American nor use American labor?

Also, you say that exporting "American" jobs to low wage countries is destructive, but did it occur to you that foreign countries also export their jobs to America? Nissan, Hyundai, Honda, Toyota, and Volkswagen aren't American companies, but they sure employ a lot of Americans. And a lot of iconic "American" companies and brands are actually foreign owned. So should they stop employing people here?



Who would have that authority to hold private business's and corporations more accountable to the American citizen?

That's a trick question. Governments officially have the power to hold businesses accountable in their jurisdictions. But in America, it's the citizens who comprise our local, state, and federal governments; it's the citizen voters who elect many of the people in our governments; and it's the citizens who actually buy many of the services and products sold by these businesses (though some business specialize in business-to-business deals or business & government deals).

So ultimately, it's up to the citizens to want to be responsible to other citizens. But that's where the "trick" comes in. In my opinion, most citizens don't want to be responsible to other citizens, instead opting for self interest first. This is by far the most important aspect of this situation because it effects all of the other aspects we've discussed.

If a citizen has a choice between a cheap foreign made product or a more expensive American made product, which will he/she choose? If that citizen is promoted at work and is now in charge of making large purchases, will he/she only make purchases from American companies? If that citizen is in charge of hiring people at their company or needs to hire contractors for yard work or construction at home, will he/she hire cheap undocumented work or more expensive legal work?

From my experience, a lot of people in the business world are pretty cutthroat. People do a lot of shady crap to their "fellow" citizens in order to make a dollar. Why would you expect people like this to suddenly start caring about being responsible to other citizens if they're elected or appointed to public office? If someone has had no problem screwing over customers, employees, and/or their employers for their entire career, I doubt they'll suddenly start caring just because they get elected to office. Even many voters don't care about other citizens, so why assume they want the govt or corporations to be responsible to American citizens in the first place?



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:36 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

Yes, I was going to say that myself but kept it short. It's the reason Walmart is packed all day and night.
I will say I bought two sweatshirts at Christmas off of the Internet from a company called American Giant. $80 sweatshirts!! That was tough. But I will say it is by far the best quality sweatshirt I have ever owned. Simple videos on the internet talking about how they are made, why they cost so much, and why they are better. I think the guy is an engineer for Apple and he did this start up that took off crazy and had backorders while he expanded.
Supply and Demand with a far above average product. That's the best solution to this OP's question. Of course you have to be able to buy $80 sweatshirts though.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:46 PM
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originally posted by: TexasTruth
a reply to: Edumakated

Yes, I was going to say that myself but kept it short. It's the reason Walmart is packed all day and night.
I will say I bought two sweatshirts at Christmas off of the Internet from a company called American Giant. $80 sweatshirts!! That was tough. But I will say it is by far the best quality sweatshirt I have ever owned. Simple videos on the internet talking about how they are made, why they cost so much, and why they are better. I think the guy is an engineer for Apple and he did this start up that took off crazy and had backorders while he expanded.
Supply and Demand with a far above average product. That's the best solution to this OP's question. Of course you have to be able to buy $80 sweatshirts though.



Funny.... I have a ton of American Giant t-shirts and sweatshirts. They are expensive, but the quality if far above any of the garbage you can get at the Gap or Target. I try to do my part to support companies that are trying to manufacturer here in America. However, the reality is you have to accept it is going to be more expensive. A lot of people talk a good game, but when it comes time to open their wallets, they don't do so...



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 09:56 PM
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originally posted by: Gumerk
Who exactly has the authority to funnel our tax money into creating opportunities for American citizens?


Congress.


For example, who would have the authority to actually promote regulations and tax incentives to encourage private corporations to act in the public interest and somehow outlaw destructive activities such as exporting American jobs to low wage countries?

Federal and local governments.



Who would have that authority to hold private business's and corporations more accountable to the American citizen?

Thank you



Private business is not beholding to the government. They are there for profit and profit only.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 10:22 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: TexasTruth
This is pretty simple...
I get a CPA to set me up a corporation TexasTruth Inc., and I sell T-shirts based off of a website I create (this is a hypothetical by the way). I'm buying shirts from the red white and blue American place. But! China will send me the same shirt at half the price.
I have a choice here! Double my profits or stick with American.
I get big! Bigglier! I say at this point screw RW&B company and get my shirts from China so I can buy tv commercial, have famous people model my shirt, and hire more marketing/shipping people. But RW&B starts going under, because my competetors are going elsewhere to compete with me.
At what point do YOU want the government to come in and say "NO"! You buy American made or we squash you?? Capitalism can be ugly, but it's better than the alternative.
You have a point, but there is no easy answer.


That is exactly what happens, but not only that... the CONSUMER doesn't give two sh*ts that you are buying you are supporting the RW&B place! They rather pay $10 for shirt instead of $15.

The consumer is also not so innocent. It is greed for a corporation to want to maximize profit, but it is also greed that a consumer wants the lowest cost. Everyone is complicit.


Consumers don't lobby for trade pacts with slave labor countries.
Consumers were also not invited to join in on CFR and Bilderberg Meetings of which the members are mostly from Big Corporations And Banks all held in secret with the tax payers footing the bill for their security.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 11:25 PM
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But consumers do purchase their products. Adult consumers are also voters, meaning they elect people at the local, state, and federal levels who have records of voting for and/or working for those organizations. Adult consumers usually have jobs too, meaning those consumers may work at those organizations, have family members who work at those organizations, and may be otherwise invested in those organizations. What's the point in boycotting "them" if you still work for them, rent from them, have credit cards issued by them, and buy their products?

And don't forget that local govt, state govt, and federal govt employees are also consumers. The attendants and workers at the Bilderberg meetings and the CFR are also consumers, voters, and/or investors. If you have a money market account, then you're propping up central bankers because your account is literally dependent on their currency staying valuable. And anyone with a 401k should really try to see what it's invested in before making anti-establishment comments lol.

I could give a lot of examples, but I think you get the point.




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