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Donald Trump claims Iran used cash given by Barack Obama for terrorism and corruption

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posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 06:50 AM
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Donald Trump has claimed money given to Iran by Barack Obama when he was President was used to fund terrorism and corruption.

"The people of Iran are finally acting against the brutal and corrupt Iranian regime," the US President said in a tweet.

"All of the money that President Obama so foolishly gave them went into terrorism and into their 'pockets.' The people have little food, big inflation and no human rights. The US is watching!"
www.independent.co.uk...


If you're giving money to criminals, what else would you expect except for them to do criminal things with the money? This is very basic stuff.

With that said, it's huge coming from a POTUS. Once again a Trump tweet sounds like a typical ATS post. That is a great thing for the world.

Do you know why it's great? It's great because it makes it a lot harder for sheeple to deny it.

The problem is that Trump's credibility is shot in many people's eyes due to his incessant lying.




posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 06:56 AM
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what incessant lying?



posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 06:58 AM
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a reply to: antiantonym




The problem is that Trump's credibility is shot in many people's eyes due to his incessant lying.


Those who hate him will almost always think he is lying. Sheeple will be sheeple, until the MSM tells them otherwise.



posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:01 AM
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Is he going to actually prove this though or is this just another of those things Trump says. Did Obama actually knowingly give money to Iran knowing it would go to terrorists or not because that is also something different.

I mean he also said that Obama taped his phones but there was never any proof or any meaningful official corroboration of that claim

Trump hates Obama and I feel like he would say just about anything to tarnish his reputation.

So if he has proof of this then, grate, lets start a full investigation and if wrong doing has taken place lets have Obama punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Otherwise can Trump not get back to running the country and stop moaning about his predecessor.
edit on 2-1-2018 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:01 AM
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Well they do / did get into all that, and if Hezbollah is truly state run then they got into the international coke+heroin racket as well.

So if you give them money, technically the loot is part of that game, although not inherently literally.

Problem is, the money given to them also came from all of the above (terrorism, corruption, drugs), as we're the World Leader in all of those things...

BUT Trump DOES actually seem to be the first POTUS during my lifetime trying to do something about all that (or at least some big chunks of it)...

...we shall see...
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posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:03 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

NSA taps everyones phones.

And Obama was the most brazen at using his Dept's for political sabotage.

I know for some that never counted as "scandals", but it is what it is!




posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:07 AM
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originally posted by: joemoe
a reply to: antiantonym




The problem is that Trump's credibility is shot in many people's eyes due to his incessant lying.


Those who hate him will almost always think he is lying. Sheeple will be sheeple, until the MSM tells them otherwise.


Those who love and support him will almost think he is right and love to believe his lies. Sheeple will be sheeple, until the(Their,Trumpeteers "Partisan-For sure not MSM"-Media like Fox...) MSM tells them otherwise.

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posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:14 AM
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That's the difference. All the money going to various countries under the Trump administration has a magical property where Trump (and only Trump) knows exactly where the money is going and how it's being used. And it's all going to poor people and orphaned kids.



posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:19 AM
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originally posted by: jtma508
That's the difference. All the money going to various countries under the Trump administration has a magical property where Trump (and only Trump) knows exactly where the money is going and how it's being used. And it's all going to poor people and orphaned kids.


Nah, the difference is that Obama KNEW before hand that his aiding of Iran would help his beloved Muslim Brotherhood terrorist types. It isn't the first time Obama helped terrorists and claimed some other baloney about it. It isn't about knowing for sure where the money is going, it is purposely giving money for terrorist causes which Obama supported but stating publicly the money was for something else. Trump doesn't play that game like Obama did.



posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:21 AM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: jtma508
That's the difference. All the money going to various countries under the Trump administration has a magical property where Trump (and only Trump) knows exactly where the money is going and how it's being used. And it's all going to poor people and orphaned kids.


Nah, the difference is that Obama KNEW before hand that his aiding of Iran would help his beloved Muslim Brotherhood terrorist types. It isn't the first time Obama helped terrorists and claimed some other baloney about it. It isn't about knowing for sure where the money is going, it is purposely giving money for terrorist causes which Obama supported but stating publicly the money was for something else. Trump doesn't play that game like Obama did.


Really?? And you're able to PROVE that statement of 'fact'? Or is this just another Trumpism?



posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:21 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Is he going to actually prove this though or is this just another of those things Trump says. Did Obama actually knowingly give money to Iran knowing it would go to terrorists or not because that is also something different.

I mean he also said that Obama taped his phones but there was never any proof or any meaningful official corroboration of that claim

Trump hates Obama and I feel like he would say just about anything to tarnish his reputation.

So if he has proof of this then, grate, lets start a full investigation and if wrong doing has taken place lets have Obama punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Otherwise can Trump not get back to running the country and stop moaning about his predecessor.


(CNN)Secretary of State John Kerry acknowledged to CNBC Thursday that some of the money Iran received in sanctions relief would go to groups considered terrorists.

When asked about whether some the $150 billion in sanctions relief to Iran would go to terrorist groups, Kerry reiterated that, after settling debts, Iran would receive closer to $55 billion. He conceded some of that could go to groups considered terrorists, saying there was nothing the U.S. could do to prevent that.

"I think that some of it will end up in the hands of the IRGC or other entities, some of which are labeled terrorists," he said in the interview in Davos, referring to Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps. "You know, to some degree, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that every component of that can be prevented."

www.cnn.com...



posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:24 AM
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a reply to: jtma508

We know Iran supports various terror orgs. Therefore,any money we mingle with theirs is, by default, used for terror.

Giving any money at all, any aid at all, to someone who is supporting the people shooting at our soldiers is treason.

If you want evidence, just look at the US weaponry found in use by our enemies.



posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:26 AM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Honestly, I'd give the Muslim Brotherhood cash looooooong before I would Al Qaeda.

Problem is Obama technically gave 'every' terrorist group from 'both sides' cash (and then some) by the time he paid Iran, started Syrian War, paid Al Qaeda, wouldnt blow up their heroin drug labs, and all those pesky weapons ISIS (Al Qaeda) and US trained troops ISIS (Al Qaeda) kept showing up with.

My personal favorite is this one:
How a Texas plumber's truck wound up in ISIS' hands


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posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:26 AM
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a reply to: mkultra11

That is really interesting.

So if Obama knowingly was sending money to terrorists why not launch a investigation and have him punished.

To be clear I think he should be if he has been knowingly funding terrorist groups.



posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:27 AM
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originally posted by: acackohfcc
what incessant lying?

All those times his mouth is open.




posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:29 AM
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a reply to: antiantonym

No, with respect, the problem here is a lack of historical context.

Presidents, intelligence agencies and departments of government, in both the US and the UK (as well as other nations, but those two most notably of all) have been funding terrorist organisations and criminal cartels all over the world, for use as proxy armies, for DECADES. Since the beginning of the cold war, local groups have been co-opted in strategically important regions, to do battle against local governments with connections to Russia and other nations considered hostile by the definitions familiar to the Cold War era.

Narco terror in South America, "religious fundamentalist" terror in the Middle East and North Africa, and a whole host of other terrorism of a host of other kinds and definitions, have all been funded, their perpetrators trained and equipped by application of the American Dollar and the British Pound to their causes, by governments, Presidents, Prime Ministers, intelligence agency heads, and the like, as well as by private military contracting carried out by governments to provide layers of plausible deniability.

But no one seems to want to address these matters, because in order to do so, folk would have to stop pointing fingers at Democrats or Republicans, or Labour or Conservative representatives in parliament here in the UK, and start pointing fingers at the actual substructure of governance in both nations, the actual underpinnings of governance, the MIC, and the other industries which support these largely financially motivated moves. Its harder to track such a target, harder to understand the threat they pose, harder to drag ones attention away from the target they are being deliberately shown by those who command their attention with propaganda and by arranging set pieces for people to become enraged by, and actually focus on the organ grinders, rather than the trained performers whose loyalties they purchased, with our hard earned tax money.

Its too difficult, too hard for the intellectually decrepit mass that we call our countrymen and our allies, to actually consider these matters in actual depth, because if they do, they will realise that their nationalism is so inappropriate, their blind loyalty to the flags under which so much murder has been purchased, their blind loyalty to their governments, their leaders, has been nothing more than the result of a propagandist campaign every bit as evil and insidious as that run against the German population by the Nazi Party, and at least ten times as effective. People would, if they really cared to do so, find that looking outside their nations for a route to a terrorism free future, does NOT function, that bombing this place, and going to war with another place, will not, cannot, EVER solve the problem, because the problem is OUR governments, the problem is OUR intelligence agencies, and their connections with big industry and string pulling globally.

The problem with the Middle East is not, in a modern sense, a problem with the Middle East. The problem is the people who are pulling the strings of the people that live there, and has been for generations. Until this is accepted, not argued about, until this fact is at the forefront of the minds of EVERY voting person in America and the UK, I do not expect things to change in the least. The players might, the colours they wear will, but the fact is that unless our governments stop funding these things, they will continue. And Trump cannot say a damned thing about this without spitting in his own eye, because he knows full well that the policies being followed by the US intelligence agencies, the military there, and indeed his own manner of doing business, will echo PRECISELY the very same methods used to continue the proxy war in the past.

In short, you will be able to tell an American President is actually doing something about the situation with terrorism, when you see them hamstringing the CIA, gutting the NSA, throwing the surveillance state and everyone who bought into it under a bus, NAMING the officials and Presidents, ALL of them, who made the current situation possible, all throughout the last eight decades, and focusing their attention and their ire against citizens not of other nations, but against those within the US, who had a hand in this evil, insidious, murderous, gluttonous, corporate, gutless approach to foreign affairs.



posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:29 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

A different kinf of cash for clunkers program was being ran.



posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:29 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

To be clear I think he should be if he has been knowingly funding terrorist groups.


Who dot you think the "moderate rebels" were all this time?

AL NUSRA.

Al Nusra stands for "Al Qaeda in Syria".

Are you old enough to remember 9/11?




posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:36 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I Worte a hell of a lot back in the day about Al-Nusra and Al-Qa'ida.

I know where you're coming from.

Also Al-Nusra did not literally stand for Al-Qa'ida in Syria, this history of it is very complex I used to write loads on Al-Qa'ida before I got a bee in ma bonnet over Trump lol.

As for what I think, If Obama send funds to Iran for the purpose of funding terrorists he should be investigated and punished to the fullest extent of the law.



posted on Jan, 2 2018 @ 07:36 AM
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a reply to: antiantonym




If you're giving money to criminals, what else would you expect except for them to do criminal things with the money?

The money was theirs Obama just returned it , America is funding "terrorists" in Syria ... criminal ?



Once again a Trump tweet sounds like a typical ATS post. That is a great thing for the world.

No , it isn't.



The problem is that Trump's credibility is shot in many people's eyes due to his incessant lying.

So what makes you think he isn't lying now ?




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