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Why do conservatives always find themselves on the wrong side of history?

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posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Conservatives and liberals think differently. If we always maintained the status quo, we would get nowhere as a species. Look at the Dark Ages as an example.

That being said, I’m sure conservatives have a part to play, as they keep liberals grounded and prevent them from getting too extreme.

I’ve always looked at it as if our society as a whole is headed in a more liberal direction over time. Could be a biased assumption based on the time period I’m living in, who knows.
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posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: darkbake

It seems to be the definitions of conservative and liberals changes over time. Like now we have "progressive liberals" who promote racism towards whites as a main stream idea. There's nothing progressive about that of course, but there it is.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian


Interesting how you changed Democrats into Conservatives. Slick.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Lets be honest here: Southerners were opposed to slavery because they were manipulated by propaganda. Slavery made employment a rare thing, and it benefitted only the few wealthy people who monetized free labor.

The average person was getting screwed by it. And thinking about all those slaves being free to choke the slim job market was scary. They didn't see the potential economic boom to them by having jobs open up....because of propaganda.

Its the purse strings, man. Quit trying to fight with your neighbor...they are being duped. Just like you, thinking what we have is "progress". LOL...progress right back to 1895, when there was no industry to feed our wallets.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

How is it that you can take credit for abolishing slavery, but not take credit for creating it? Someday you will try to take credit for outlawing abortion too.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Racists and religious zealots choose conservative politics because they love to make purging laws. Like forcing women to give birth then let their kids die from poverty and sickness.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

Really? I'm quite aware of many racists who vote democrat. They just tend to not be white. Are you a 'progressive'? Maybe that's why you chose not to see them.

Both sides have zealot extremists. I do think there are racists and religious zealots who subscribe to conservative politics, but that doesn't make conservatives racists.

Divisiveness like this doesn't help any of us common folk. Remove bias and prejudice as well as you can. You may see a very different world.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: AntiDoppleganger

I'm not a politician. Divisiveness is not my problem. Like trump.

Conservatives like to meddle in people's bedroom activities and make laws accordingly.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:01 AM
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People don't understand the divisive agenda.

They been 'picking teams' since grade school sports. You are conditioned to it along many lines, class, religion politics, etc.

You have to pick a side, sling mud at the other side. You have to respond to the challenge when mud gets thrown at your side.

You have to respond.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: AntiDoppleganger

I'm not a politician. Divisiveness is not my problem. Like trump.

Conservatives like to meddle in people's bedroom activities and make laws accordingly.


Divisiveness is everybody's problem.

What are you doing, besides complaining, to address your complaints?



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian


Well you do know that any tag is contextual and limited? Jefferson was politically liberal but culturally conservative. That sort of thing. Depends on angle of view, a prism if you will.

You could even say liberals, in the US, are historically conservative in regards to power application and suspicion toward the rights of the people possessing powers traditional in possession of the state.


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posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: AntiDoppleganger



Conservatives like to meddle in people's bedroom activities and make laws accordingly.



Well this is not good but neither is using the IRS to shut up redressive political speech.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:16 AM
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I've thought about this quite a bit myself. It really just comes down to bad ideas being bad ideas, and the resentment of change by a lot of people on the right.

It also has to do with the almost fanatical belief in "tradition" that makes a person value an idea just to honor the people who came before them. No matter the damage it may cause.

People who follow that type of thinking will always be on the wrong side of history, given enough time. And it isn't as political as everyone thinks. Change is the only constant in life, and to fight that simple fact will inevitably leave you on the wrong side of history.

That's life. The world has been leading to a multicultural, multiracial, world from the moment someone put a boat in the water to seek out new cultures and knowledge. To fight the natural progression of our species will inevitably place a person on the wrong side of history.
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posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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REALLY????? How soon you forget, or want to rewrite history. Two big ones Democrats were on the wrong side of were Slavery( Democrats were Pro-Slavery_ Republicans ended it, and civil rights,( the Democrats were dragged kicking and screaming on the civil rights act) And never mind the KKK was born from the democrat party. And never mind the Conservatives are the ones that are for individual liberty, while the liberals tend to lean to socialist or authoritarian rule. You might want to do some more reading before you post.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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History often teaches there is no greater evil than the one represented by those who claim to act on the 'right' side of history.

As for your cartoon caricature of America political history, bravo for keeping youself entertained and safely away from the more uncomfortable complexities of the human condition, that when more properly understood, might actually lead to solutions that would improve the world around us.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: Logarock

I don't file forms to avoid taxes in the guise of free speech. We have the right to free speech already. I don't agree with tax dodging for any church, foundation, party.

Your comparison of adults bedroom activities and the persecution of rich folks, says a lot about conservatives mind set.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:26 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: joemoe

This is about conservative/liberal. Back then, the Southern Democrats were conservative (i.e., states rights, less federal government, less taxes, etc.). The Southern states are still full of conservatives - they just switched parties.



The parties didn't switch the way it is portrayed by the left. The Republicans shifted a bit to the left from where they were in those days, but the Democrats leaped frog to the left of them to stay in power and attract the votes from minorities. In the end they just switched the minorities to another form of slavery, indentureship to the Government. Today politicians from both parties Democrat/Republican are no angels, many in their ranks now and in the past are/were corrupt. They serve special interests and the military industrial complex for their own gains. They cheat and lie to stay in power, instead of fighting for the people and their liberty. They foment division to keep the public fighting amongst themselves so that they can do their deeds unhindered. But believe what ever you want, nothing in this thread will change anyone's minds.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:30 AM
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And as far as abortion goes, I would argue liberals are on the wrong side with wanting to kill innocent babies . It is funny most liberals are against the death penalty, so they don't want a grown person who has killed people to be killed but are ok with abortion. Explain that. And don't give me that womens right to choose. They also have the right to choose to not have sex, also don't trot out the incest/rape, as they only apply to a small amount of abortions performed. Most abortions are used as birth control.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: Iamonlyhuman

Voting, emails, ATS for debate and ranting.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: norhoc

Aw, very sweet of you. With such depth of love and vaginal knowledge, please tell your congressman to fund CHIPS.



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