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The strangest Coincidence regarding the Pentagon attack on 9/11

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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:23 AM
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It was a missile or a bomb which was intended to destroy the records pertaining the trillions of unaccounted for taxpayer
dollars mentioned just days prior by Donald Rumsfeld.

You are sooo far behind the curve on these topics.
Ask yourself two simple questions.

1. Why announce unaccounted for money if you knew all the evidence would be destroyed the next day ?????

2. There is always two ends to a paper trail. Just because the store is destroyed doesn't mean the shoppers receipt is destroyed too. The DOD has purchase receipts. The contractor has sales receipts. The bank has transaction receipts.




posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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Even scientists for 9/11 Truth has proven your “classic 9/11 conspiracies” false concerning the pentagon....

Are you part of the problem to getting to the “truth”?



Bringing Closure to the 9/11 Pentagon Debate
By John Wyndham - October 21, 20161937

911truth.org...

Conclusion

Despite the clear evidence and its analysis using the scientific method of large plane impact, a substantial portion of the 9/11 truth movement, including accepted leaders and those involved in major organizations, continues to publicly endorse, adhere to, or promulgate talks, writings and films on false Pentagon hypotheses. Some simply offer criticisms and reject or ignore evidence that would bring closure to the argument. There is clear evidence by way of disintegrating truth groups that these endorsements and communications are injurious to the movement.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 04:05 PM
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No wreckage .....??

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Looks like aircraft wreckage

Filled 10 bins like this with aircraft debris

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the "most secure" building in the Capitol.


The most "secure" building is an OFFICE BUILDING



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: 0001391
It's obvious that no plane hit the Pentagon. Nor that Pennsylvania incident that was devoid of wreckage.
Planes leave tons of debris when the crash. There's no just no way around that.
There's no way a jet flew inches over that freeway, across the lawn and perfectly punched a tunnel through
the "most secure" building in the Capitol.

It was a missile or a bomb which was intended to destroy the records pertaining the trillions of unaccounted for taxpayer
dollars mentioned just days prior by Donald Rumsfeld.


To be accurate, Rumsfeld did not announce the missing funds. A committee headed by Cynthia McKinney of Georgia was conducting hearings about those missing funds on 10 September and Rumsfeld and an assistant were deposed at that time. It was on CSPAN and I watched part of it.

If Congress knew enough about it to be having hearings, that means the missing funds were discovered at least several months earlier, because Congress is notoriously slow. Because congressional auditors were ALREADY working inside the pentagon, yes the part that was targeted, it was known probably before Bush & Rumsfeld took office.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 05:19 PM
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Hhhhhhh,

So they already had offsite records of the missing money? Did you just contradict yourself?

And again, how was hitting a relatively small section of a 24 acre building going to destroy:
1) The off site backups.
2) All the various networks in the pentagon.
3) All the treasury records of money to the pentagon.
4) All the banking records of money transactions with the pentagon.
5) All the emails and financial records on computers off site from the pentagon.
6) All the documented contracts with the pentagon.
7) All the financial records housed with bases, posts, and units around the world.
8) All the off site audits concerning the pentagon.
9) All the financial records of companies that conduct business with the pentagon.
10) Financial records of those that deal with the pentagon.
11) Credit card transactions.


If the records could so easily be destroyed, why not just shred documents and bust hard drives.

If the pentagon’s sins was conducted in hard cash transfers, then there was nothing to destroy in the first place.

Your narrative totally ignores reality.

And there in only proof of a jet hitting a pentagon. If it was a missile or bomb, why was there so little of the interior of the pentagon on the lawn. Why was everything pushed towards and into the pentagon.

For a missile or bomb. Conspiracists talk about how little damage there was to the pentagon floor. How is there no crater in the pentagon floor? Why was the roof not blown off? How were pentagon windows not blown out into the lawn? Why were car windows not blown out.
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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: 0001391
It's obvious that no plane hit the Pentagon. Nor that Pennsylvania incident that was devoid of wreckage.
Planes leave tons of debris when the crash. There's no just no way around that.
There's no way a jet flew inches over that freeway, across the lawn and perfectly punched a tunnel through
the "most secure" building in the Capitol.

It was a missile or a bomb which was intended to destroy the records pertaining the trillions of unaccounted for taxpayer
dollars mentioned just days prior by Donald Rumsfeld.


If Congress knew enough about it to be having hearings, that means the missing funds were discovered at least several months earlier, because Congress is notoriously slow. Because congressional auditors were ALREADY working inside the pentagon, yes the part that was targeted, it was known probably before Bush & Rumsfeld took office.


In fact, don’t most investors gather documents of interest to scrutinize those documents away from the place and parties of interest? And those documents are complied in a report away from the place and persons of interest. I would say you just contradicted yourself........



posted on Feb, 16 2018 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux


Newsbreak NF, this was not about "most investors" whatever on earth you mean by that bit of deflection.

This was about pentagon spending and accounting procedures, or rather, the lack thereof.



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 12:01 AM
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No, this is you claiming that a jet hitting the pentagon would totally erase records proving wrong doing.

Now, can you provide a rebuttal to...

In fact, don’t most investors gather documents of interest to scrutinize those documents away from the place and parties of interest? And those documents are complied in a report away from the place and persons of interest. I would say you just contradicted yourself........


You put your self in a logic hole with...




originally posted by: Salander


If Congress knew enough about it to be having hearings, that means the missing funds were discovered at least several months earlier, because Congress is notoriously slow. Because congressional auditors were ALREADY working inside the pentagon, yes the part that was targeted, it was known probably before Bush & Rumsfeld took office.


If there was an investigation, that indicates records were already collected. Subpoenaed or ordered handed over for lack of better terms. And you clearly stated it was documented funds were missing.

What was the logic in hitting the pentagon again?
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posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 08:38 AM
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You have me confused with another. I do not think and have never said that a Boeing hit the pentagon. Indeed, because there is no evidence for it, I have long known that no airliner struck the pentagon. The FDR data provided by NTSB confirms that.

The part of the pentagon where the auditors and records were was rigged with some type of HE device. That's why so many who escaped reported the odor of cordite. That's why nobody could see any parts of a wrecked airliner or its passengers.

The mission was too important to leave it up to some clown pilot named Hanjour. It required precise placement of charges.

Mission Accomplished.



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 09:24 AM
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One, all evidence points to a jet hitting the pentagon.

Two, you will not answer to they already had it documented the money was missing? And that it was part of an on going investigation with records and reports collected off side? How was a jet hitting the pentagon going to stop the investigation, and destroy off site records and audits.

The reason there was little wreckage on the lawn was the jet going 500 mph pushed into the pentagon. Not out.

Cordite? Then why was there no pentagon exploded on to the lawn. No crater in the pentagon floor. Why were windows not blown out into the lawn. How was items in the construction yard outside the pentagon pushed towards the pentagon, and not away.


Conspirits basing their arguments on bad logic and pseudoscience killed the truth movement.



Bringing Closure to the 9/11 Pentagon Debate

911truth.org...

Conclusion

Despite the clear evidence and its analysis using the scientific method of large plane impact, a substantial portion of the 9/11 truth movement, including accepted leaders and those involved in major organizations, continues to publicly endorse, adhere to, or promulgate talks, writings and films on false Pentagon hypotheses. Some simply offer criticisms and reject or ignore evidence that would bring closure to the argument. There is clear evidence by way of disintegrating truth groups that these endorsements and communications are injurious to the movement.

edit on 17-2-2018 by neutronflux because: Added and fixed



posted on Feb, 18 2018 @ 10:15 PM
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originally posted by: 0001391
It's obvious that no plane hit the Pentagon. Nor that Pennsylvania incident that was devoid of wreckage.
Planes leave tons of debris when the crash. There's no just no way around that.
There's no way a jet flew inches over that freeway, across the lawn and perfectly punched a tunnel through
the "most secure" building in the Capitol.

It was a missile or a bomb which was intended to destroy the records pertaining the trillions of unaccounted for taxpayer
dollars mentioned just days prior by Donald Rumsfeld.


I agree.

I thought that plane crashing in France against the side of the mountain was quite informative re; debris size and what was left over.

Same dynamic regarding crashing at near full speed, and right into solid object on ground. Lots of big plane debris left around.

Very little plane debris in any of the sites. They did all they could to limit evidence left around to be evaluated. The steel was on Chinese boats before the anthrax letters even went out, which might well have served the purpose of getting everyone's mind off of the smoldering debris.

I never got a straight answer as to why the debris in NYC was so hot as to stay hot 8 weeks later, and yet the Pentagon was different.

And, no matter what the professional debunkers here say - the ones paid to monitor these sites and shame people who ask questions as "Gaining off the lives of people killed" (as if I gain something by asking questions) those here paid to monitor new arguments and stomp them out, they have never given me a satisfactory answer as to why all those "Drills" just happened to be occurring that day, the fighter planes, NORAD, the FAA, etc. etc.



posted on Feb, 19 2018 @ 01:33 AM
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Guess what the plane went into the building , unlike the mountain compare like with like so not the same dynamic as you claim.


"Most of the wreckage was in very small pieces and most was carried out in drywall buckets. Some was large enough to identify -- including the tail number on the aircraft. I don't think there's any doubt about what it was and who owned it." (From a letter by an employee of the Pentagon)



"DC Matthew" wrote about his work inside the Pentagon: "After about 15 minutes shoveling up chunks of carpet and brick, I found a piece of circuit board, and a chunk of the plane. When I say a chunk of it, I mean a piece that was about 3 oz of twisted aluminum. The biggest piece I've seen so far is about the size of a refrigerator."



Lt. Kevin Schaeffer from the Navy Command Center recalled that "on a service road that circled the Pentagon between the B and C rings, a chunk of the 757's nose cone and front landing gear lay on the pavement a few feet away, resting against the B Ring wall."


The plane parts hit many obstacles not one then blown away, some people on here never consider differences when comparing events then jump to conclusions.

The above statements have been posted on here many times.


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posted on Feb, 19 2018 @ 08:13 AM
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You agree on what evidence?

There is every indication a large commercial jet hit the pentagon.

People that ignore the only credible explanation for the pentagon is a large jet impact and the people that ignore the scores of witnesses that attest to a large jet impact killed the truth movement.




The Pentagon Attack: Problems with Theories Alternative to Large Plane Impact
First Published January, 2011. Version 3, April 2016.
By John D. Wyndham (PhD, Physics)
www.scientistsfor911truth.org...

Addendum to the Paper Refuting the Pentagon Flyover Hypothesis
By Frank Legge | Dec 27, 2011 | Essays, US | 67 |
www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...

Flight AA77 on 9/11: New FDR Analysis Supports the Official Flight Path Leading to Impact with the Pentagon
Frank Legge, (B.Sc.(Hons.), Ph.D.) and Warren Stutt, ( B.Sc.(Hons.) Comp. Sci.) January 2011
www.journalof911studies.com...

Bringing Closure to the 9/11 Pentagon Debate
911truth.org...



posted on Feb, 19 2018 @ 09:35 AM
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Same dynamic regarding crashing at near full speed, and right into solid object on ground. Lots of big plane debris left around.


SO how many planes crashes you been too ...??

After going over site of plane crash marking human remains did not see any "Large pieces" as you put it

Biggest piece we found was 2 x 3 ft section of tail fin

Lot of variable involved : speed, angle of impact, type of ground, etc

German Wings flight hit side of mountain - angle of impact was more of a side swipe as plane slid along side of slope
rather than directly hitting




They did all they could to limit evidence left around to be evaluated. The steel was on Chinese boats before the anthrax letters even went out, which might well have served the purpose of getting everyone's mind off of the smoldering debris.


WRONG

All debris was carted to Fresh Kills Landfill on Staten Island where it was sorted and cataloged

Steel pieces of interest on investigators were saved. Some other pieces saved for monuments

Rest was scrapped after all evidence value was exhausted.....




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