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North Korea Watch 2017

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posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: Churchhousecreeper

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posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 03:29 PM
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originally posted by: face23785
Looks like Trump's patience with China is up.

That sounds ominious.



posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: Churchhousecreeper

Look up 2 posts.


Yeah sorry dude, missed that somehow.



posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 05:03 PM
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Yeah, I'm curious where Trump is going with this latest tweet.



posted on Jun, 20 2017 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: face23785
Looks like Trump's patience with China is up.

That sounds ominious.


I was thinking that as well. Between what happened to Otto Warmbier, the rest of our citizens in NK prisons, and their nukes/chemical/biological weapons, there is no reason why military action shouldn't be taken.

Lil' Kim doesn't respond to diplomacy.

Lil' Kim doesn't respond to sanctions.

Lil' Kim wants his own way no matter what it costs, even if lives are at stake.

Lil' Kim has threatened us with nukes, and can reach Alaska and Hawaii.

Never mind his satellites, which supposedly have EMP capabilities.

He's sworn to attack us. He's evil enough to whack who knows how many people, inc. members of his own family. I question whether his wife and daughter are safe there.

I don't want to see innocent people die, but imho if we go for "strategic patience" once again, that will give Lil' Kim more time to take military action against us, which, imo, would cost more lives than the other way around.

The time to act is now.



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 05:11 PM
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N. Korea conducts rocket engine test in suspected ICBM development

Nothing earth shattering, but another rocket engine test today.



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: Sagacity

My brother and I have had an ongoing discussion the past few months regarding these rocket tests. He thinks we should try to shoot one down to give Lil Kim a slap on the wrist. Once it is out over international waters it's not entirely fair game, but I don't think shooting it down would provoke any serious retaliation. I'm against it for another reason though.
We had another failure of the missile defense system today.

The big problem I see with trying to shoot one of their rockets down is, if the system fails, that would be a tremendous propaganda victory for North Korea. It would probably embolden them even more. If we were to do it, if possible I'd program the system to launch several interceptors. If the success rate is only 40% or so, on the face of it launching 3 interceptors might sound like it would ensure success, but it wouldn't necessarily. I just think it would be way too risky.



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 07:55 PM
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Yes, I'm actually surprised that they release any information regarding failed intercept tests. I'm sure they could spin or alter the test goals at least publicly. They would have to release something I'd assume, but if it were me (and what do I know) I wouldn't publicize anything that wasn't positive. Give the media something to chew on, as you're not going to hide the tests. Just control the narrative. They do it for other things. Not saying it's "right", so to speak. But call me guilty, because I'd do it. I've always thought and have probably stated as such on ATS that I assumed any announced missile defense test lately would result in a positive result. Not the first time I was wrong, oh well.

Haven't put a lot of thought into it but off the cuff I only see a few benefits of being straight on the matter. One is just being honest and transparent. The other two are kind of co-mingled. All the talk about NK developing nuclear weapons further, along with missile technology sparks fear in many people. News of failed interceptor tests increase that fear for some. This could conceivably increase support for military action against NK. It could also build support for more funding of interceptor tech. Not saying it's anything more than what it is, just a straight report. But all news affects public opinion one way or the other.

As for shooting down one of NK's tests where they actually launch, I tend to agree with you. Epic fail if it doesn't work. I've always thought it was too risky to attempt unless their launch was an actual attack. It would weaken our deterrent ability incredibly if we didn't hit. A launch against one of their tests would also ratchet tensions up greatly as well for what it's worth.



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 10:17 PM
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Well one reason you make stuff like that publicly available is so that everyone knows we need more funding to get it right. I know the public thinks the government keeps all kinds of crazy stuff secret, and I'm not saying they don't, but it's not always in the government's best interest to keep certain things secret.



posted on Jun, 22 2017 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: Sagacity
N. Korea conducts rocket engine test in suspected ICBM development

Nothing earth shattering, but another rocket engine test today.


It's too bad we didn't remotely manipulate the software and cause the engine to explode in the middle of test.



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